M2 with ISC-300 and Allison 3000hs 5.63 rear end

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Xray4, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

    190
    172
    Aug 7, 2020
    0
    Hi there. I came over here from the hotshot page, I hope this is the right place.

    I just picked up a single axle 2010 freightliner M2 106 with a Cummins 8.3 ISC-300, Allison 3000hs six speed auto, and 5.63 rear end.

    I plan to use it within the State of Arizona, but all over. My issue is with the high gearing, and this speck, fuel economy for the lifetime of the truck according to the computer is 5.5mpg.. it's got 230,000 miles on it and computer says it's burned about 42,000 gallons. I don't plan to be over 54k lb gross combined. There are some long grades and steep hills here in Arizona, as well as long flat roads.

    I thought I would look into getting this rear end geared differently to increase my fuel efficiency but I did have one gentleman recently mention he had a similar setup that was getting 9 miles to the gallon and he thinks I'm losing fuel efficiency elsewhere.

    With someone here help point me in the right direction? I bought this truck because it was super clean and it was a pretty good deal, but I'm worried now that over the course of a year I'll spend so much more in fuel I should have budgeted an extra 30k and bought a different set up..

    Empty and no trailer on flat ground it runs 65mph at 2000rpm.

    Any help is appreciated IMG_20210823_101910.jpg
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. Roberts450

    Roberts450 Road Train Member

    2,237
    3,634
    Feb 6, 2016
    0
    How many months and or miles have you logged with it doing your normal loads to figure out your fuel mileage?
     
  4. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

    190
    172
    Aug 7, 2020
    0
    none yet, the numbers are from the computer in the truck after laptop was plugged in. shows 230k miles and 42k gallons used
     
  5. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

    4,188
    6,004
    Aug 26, 2014
    0
    Idle and PTO time? Was it a city truck. Some Allison's have a lot of overdrive.
     
  6. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

    190
    172
    Aug 7, 2020
    0
    Don't know, i couldn't convince the guy with the computer to give me any printouts, and i don't have access to the software. It was a praxair delivery truck is all I know.

    Just wondering if I can regear it, if that will help to mpg, or if I need to look elsewhere
     
  7. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

    4,188
    6,004
    Aug 26, 2014
    0
    Praxair bumping docks, delivering cylinders and such. That is probably pretty good mileage.
    Do like Roberts said, run it and see.
    Some of those Allisons are 30% OD. Do not worry about the stiff gears right off.
     
    spsauerland and Xray4 Thank this.
  8. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

    190
    172
    Aug 7, 2020
    0
    Cool. Will do. Cab card just came in today, will put some highway miles on it. I really figured that 5.63 gears and 2000rpm at 65mph instantly meant poor fuel mileage.

    Will run it for a bit and see. I'll resurrect the thread after some miles
     
    Last edited: Sep 2, 2021
    BoxCarKidd Thanks this.
  9. Flint1

    Flint1 Road Train Member

    1,107
    9,466
    Sep 4, 2019
    Alberta
    0
    I ran a 2008 M2 crew cab, tuned and deleted 8.3 isc, 5.13 rear axle ratio with a 3000 allison. Pulled a 4 place car hauler, always loaded with 3 pick up trucks. 1750 rpm @65. Always around 54k lbs. Averaged 8-11 mpg, driven very sedately. Was a great money maker. Until it dropped a valve at 450k miles.
     
    BoxCarKidd, spsauerland and Xray4 Thank this.
  10. Xray4

    Xray4 Light Load Member

    190
    172
    Aug 7, 2020
    0
    Awesome. Thank you for this insight
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.