8-2 split explained in an easy to understand format

Dockbumper · May 26, 2021

This cracks me up. 130 replies to the question: "8/2 Split explained in an easy to understand format". It goes back to the saying someone posted on here the other day. " Ask 3 truck drivers a question, and you'll get 4 different answers! Lol

Dockbumper · May 26, 2021

Dockbumper said: ↑

This cracks me up. 130 replies to the question: "8/2 Split explained in an easy to understand format". It goes back to the saying someone posted on here the other day. " Ask 3 truck drivers a question, and you'll get 4 different answers! Lol
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Oh....I almost forgot. Over a 10 YEAR PERIOD!

Bpinar · Sep 24, 2021

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I have seen and heard the split berth provision explained many times and found the explanations often just confuses folks. While driving I started trying to think of an easy way to define the rule and make it easy to understand and remember. I came up with 4 rules.

Please, if any information I post here is incorrect feel free to correct me (posting the pertinent reg would be helpful as well). The method I use was taught to me at orientation and I have used it a few times with no complaints from the logging department.

Rule 1. The 2 hour break may be any combination of sleeper and off duty time.

Rule 2. The 8 hour break must be 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper.

Rule 3. Only 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper will extend the 14.

Rule 4. The new 14 begins after the FIRST qualifying break, but not until you have completed the second qualifying break.

It seems this rule was put in place to make your driving time more flexible, but is so confusing no one uses it, then complains about having to pack a full 11 hours of driving into a 14 hour period making driving a marathon and this is just not the case.

Here are 2 examples of using the split berth provisions.

Example 1

You start a fresh 14. You drive for 5 hours and get hungry. Maybe you want to stop and get a sit down meal, use the restroom, and take a decent break. You take a 2 hour break (any combination of off duty and sleeper). You get back on the road and have 7 hours left of your 14 and 6 hours of driving. Now you drive for 5 more hours and your 11 is almost up. You park and take an 8 hour break in the sleeper. That 8 hour break completes the split berth and after your 8 hour break you have 6 hours of drive time and 9 hours of your 14 left. You did not waste any time, and you did not crush out 10 straight hours of driving. You are not fatigued and feel good.

Example 2

You start a fresh 14. But during your 10 hour break you had to do laundry (you do wash your clothes right?), take a shower, maybe talk to family, pay some bills online, whatever. So while you had a 10 hour break in reality you got only 5 hours sleep. You can't sleep past your 10 hour break because you have a pickup appointment you can't miss. So you drive 1 hour to the shipper and make the pickup. You leave the shipper an hour later but you know you shouldn't drive as you are exhausted. So you find a place to park, say an hour away, and take an 8 hour nap in the sleeper. That 8 hour break extends your 14. So after your 8 hour break you still have 11 of your 14 and 9 of your 11. You are well rested and alert now. Now say you drive for 5 hours after your 8 hour nap and stop for a 2 hour break. Now your 14 starts at the end of your previous 8 hour break. You have 6 hours of your 11 left and 7 hours of your 14.

I know it seems confusing but it can really be useful if you try it. Just remember the 4 rules.
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After I take my 3 hours offduty , instead of 7 hours sleeper berth can I do 10 hours to regain full 14 hours? Let's say after 10 hours off duty I have an appointment at 6 am where I am very close to receiver with only 15 minutes of driving and 45 minutes in on duty. but it takes 4 hous to unload which I spent in sleeper berth which gives me my hours back with this rule. After driving 10 hours if I stop for 7 hours it only gonna give me 15 minutes for driving so instead of 7 can I do 10 hours sleeper berth to get back my 14 hours?

MysticHZ · Sep 24, 2021

Bpinar said: ↑

After I take my 3 hours offduty , instead of 7 hours sleeper berth can I do 10 hours to regain full 14 hours? Let's say after 10 hours off duty I have an appointment at 6 am where I am very close to receiver with only 15 minutes of driving and 45 minutes in on duty. but it takes 4 hous to unload which I spent in sleeper berth which gives me my hours back with this rule. After driving 10 hours if I stop for 7 hours it only gonna give me 15 minutes for driving so instead of 7 can I do 10 hours sleeper berth to get back my 14 hours?
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Anytime you do 10 off, you'll get back a full 14.

kemosabi49 · Sep 25, 2021

Bpinar said: ↑

After I take my 3 hours offduty , instead of 7 hours sleeper berth can I do 10 hours to regain full 14 hours? Let's say after 10 hours off duty I have an appointment at 6 am where I am very close to receiver with only 15 minutes of driving and 45 minutes in on duty. but it takes 4 hous to unload which I spent in sleeper berth which gives me my hours back with this rule. After driving 10 hours if I stop for 7 hours it only gonna give me 15 minutes for driving so instead of 7 can I do 10 hours sleeper berth to get back my 14 hours?
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Yes you can do the 10 and get back the full 11/14. But you still have to show that 7 hours in the sleeper as part of that 10. Even if doing the split got you home and the truck is sitting in your driveway.

25(2)+2 · Oct 5, 2021

The long period has to be 7 hours or more continuous on line 2 if the day was extended by 2 or more hours continuous line 1 and 2, and the sleeper period added to the shorter period must be 10 hours or more. Even if you're going off duty for an extended period

Keep Trucking shows a 14 hour violation even with the sleeper period first, which disappears after the split break is complete, and also shows drive time available after a split break is completed, if that display option is selected.

Mine has been not switching to the driveline automatically unless I make sure, but it corrects that by showing unassigned drive time, which is fixed by claiming it.

Dockbumper · Oct 5, 2021

Now up to 7 PAGES........"in an easy to understand format" lol

I did understand it just fine until my brain short circuited trying to read 10,000 explanations!!

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