When it's TOO COLD to start or run...

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Gears, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I always operated on the "in God we trust, all others pay cash" principle.


    In God we trust, all others I'll add MY OWN treatment.

    I never gelled up either that way. :biggrin_25525:
     
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  3. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Forecast said 31 for here for sunday. If this snow starts melting, its going to be one huge mess. LOL Don't know which is worse.
     
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  4. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    31 on Sunday? Really? AWESOME!!!
    I need to watch the weather channel more often. You absolutely made my day!!
     
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  5. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    FYI, you guys do know you can ungel a truck with power service diesel 9-1-1 right? the RED bottle. just follow directions on bottle. needs 3 bottles at $20 a bottle if you have 200 gallons of fuel (fill fuel filters half and half with 911 and diesel, and put one bottle per 100 gallons in the tanks...)...what i dont get is when i see people use this stuff as an antigel. it says RIGHT ON THE BOTTLE that it does not PREVENT gel-ups, it only UNgels........hah. I doubt any of you guys are using it improperly, but i wonder if some of the stories about other people being posted here have anything to do with that one...? Power Service also makes "Diesel Kleen" which is a SUMMER additive, and is made to clean injectors and increase fuel milage (supposedly), and does not claim to be an antigel. Yet i see it flying off the shelves at truck stops even though you need antigel...lol.

    FYI insider info: Werner tested a bunch of antigel additives by mixing diesel in milk jugs and putting them in a reefer at -20F basically.....and then pouring them into a jar through filter media and timing how long it took to fill the jar or clog the filter... Some of the additives did nothing at that temperature over untreated fuel. They chose Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement (the white bottle) based on the results. Now, I'm guessing it wasnt *the* best, and that the price of it had something to do with it...costs about $10 a bottle without buying in bulk. One bottle treats 100 gallons. They wont tell us which ones failed the test though.

    Gears, just get a frozen load. Then you wont need it to run.....hahahaha.
     
  6. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    Howes doesn't work real good with the new ULSD. you have to double treat it and that's getting upwards of two larg bottles for a fill up. Which is very spendy. I use it in the reefer and just don't shut my truck off.

    Lucas now has an antigel out they claim works best with the ULSD. I haven't tried it yet, has anyone else?
     
  7. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I've never had gelling issues with Howes. No matter the weather, no matter the fuel type.

    You mention cost. 2 bottles when bought by the case is about $20. That is very cheap insurance against gelling when the alternative is gelling, the cost to ungel, the wasted down time.

    About a year ago the company I was driving for at the time didn't treat any of the fuel. Temp dropped to -15. All the trucks were gelled, and an entire day was lost trying to ungel and keep trucks running. That is a lot of lost revenue when compared to the minor cost of anti gel.
     
  8. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    I noticed that red bottle stuff AFTER I put a bunch of Howes in each tank and reefer tank. Don't think I want to add the red bottle stuff to that ####tail. I think it will warm up a bit towards Sunday, close to 25 or 30, so I should be golden come Sunday.
     
  9. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    How big of a fan do we need to move this cold garbage back to where it came from?;) Already had enough of these temps!
     
  10. Gears

    Gears Trucker Forum STAFF - Gone, But Not Forgotten.

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    It's them Russians....they got a weather machine :biggrin_25522:
     
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  11. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    My company uses stuff called flomax. It works in our trucks real good at least up to -25 that I know for sure. One quart treats 200 gallons, but they buy it in bulk not sure where you can find it.
     
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