Was I out of line?

bumper Jack · Jan 14, 2022

buckeyetrucker said: ↑

No where did I say she was lying about her rate. My problem is her telling me she would pass on my rate then offer it for more. Then she approved it with her boss and flat out tells me that just because I offered a rate 3 hrs earlier she was gonna give me a cheaper rate. She’s the one that said”I will pass” on my rate.
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I think you done good. I would have got ugly when she started lecturing me.

MACK E-6 · Jan 14, 2022

Crude Truckin' said: ↑

How long before ol' Tiffany fires up a TTR account and comes to defend herself? This will be the most epic thread in the history of TTR!
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I’ll be watchIng.

Most of those people show up just to cry about being named. I edited her last name down to the initial, so that one won’t fly anymore.

GYPSY65 · Jan 14, 2022

Wasted Thyme said: ↑

I'm going to be a bad guy in this thread. I think you were out of line. Only because my word is my bond. If I said 1500. I would have stuck with it. To automatically assume the broker was lying. Is stereotypical. The broker may have been telling the truth and had to go back to his customer and tell them it wasn't moving for the rate.

Granted. I think the broker was wrong for disregarding what the boss said, too.
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But in this case there was t any agreement
She blew him off so isn’t his word null and void at that point?

I would have done the $1500 if she said. I’ll check and call back and then he seen it at the $1600 but his negotiations were long gone by this point

Lennythedriver · Jan 14, 2022

buckeyetrucker said: ↑

Called on a load yesterday that was listed for 1100. I countered with 1500 because it was a short run but would take a full 12 hrs to complete with the appointment times. They said they couldn’t go that high and I said no problem and have a great day. They contact me 30 minutes later and offer 12 and I tell her the same thing, I would be at 15. She then tells me they have 1243.00 in it and they will give me 1240. I again said my rate was 1500 and she said she would pass. Again, I said no problem and have a great day. 2 hours later I see it posted for 1600, so I call her and said I will do it for their rate if 1600. After she knows that it was the same person she was emailing earlier she said she couldn’t pay me the 16 because I offered the 1500 earlier. She finally says she will ask her supervisor if they want to pay me the 1600 and she comes back and actually says “my supervisor said go ahead and pay you the 1600 but I’m only going to give you the 1500 because that’s what you offered earlier”. I told her to keep her load and she proceeded to tell me how that was bad business practice to offer a rate then not take it for that lower rate even though she declined it. Been bugging me ever since she said that. Was I really in the wrong?
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If you’ve never taken up the friendly little card game they call poker, you ought to consider it. You’d be pretty good at it. She decided to play poker with you and lost.

buckeyetrucker · Jan 14, 2022

Had another load I called on today. They had it posted for 1700 and I offered 2000. I would have done for 18-19 if they countered. He said their rate was firm and I said no problem and have a great day. Even though it was a load that had to be loaded and delivered asap they evidently weren’t going to budge. Received an email 2.5 hrs later asking if I would do it for 2 and please head towards shipper so they could make delivery close to on time. By this time I would have been a work in at both ends so I declined and enjoyed my day off. I know these brokers are probably tired of the high rates but you think they would be willing to negotiate at least a little bit.

DirtyBob · Jan 14, 2022

You're never out of line when you ask for money at work.

ProfessionalNoticer · Jan 15, 2022

Midwest Trucker said: ↑

Yeah for sure. Of course I was not happy at all the goal post moving. Especially, since we had done dozens of loads together previously. I’d like to think and prefer sustainability into the future but in a pinch and when things have to go, I reckon it is what it is. As a carrier I probably would have been more forgiving for the greater good, but in this case it didn’t happen. Of course, I’ll remember such unforgiving attitude.

Some carriers see long term, some brokers see long term, most see right in front of their bumper/computer screen.
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500 is gouging and I'm surprised he did that considering you had a load history. Poor decision IMO.

trees · Jan 15, 2022

buckeyetrucker said: ↑

Called on a load yesterday that was listed for 1100. I countered with 1500 because it was a short run but would take a full 12 hrs to complete with the appointment times. They said they couldn’t go that high and I said no problem and have a great day. They contact me 30 minutes later and offer 12 and I tell her the same thing, I would be at 15. She then tells me they have 1243.00 in it and they will give me 1240. I again said my rate was 1500 and she said she would pass. Again, I said no problem and have a great day. 2 hours later I see it posted for 1600, so I call her and said I will do it for their rate if 1600. After she knows that it was the same person she was emailing earlier she said she couldn’t pay me the 16 because I offered the 1500 earlier. She finally says she will ask her supervisor if they want to pay me the 1600 and she comes back and actually says “my supervisor said go ahead and pay you the 1600 but I’m only going to give you the 1500 because that’s what you offered earlier”. I told her to keep her load and she proceeded to tell me how that was bad business practice to offer a rate then not take it for that lower rate even though she declined it. Been bugging me ever since she said that. Was I really in the wrong?
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Rates are constantly changing during negotiations, she never accepted your offer or sent a rate con. Therefore, that rate was never confirmed. Every new, or subsequent call to the original inquiry, starts with a new offer, or modification to a previous offer. She had it posted for 16. You called and said you'd accept 16. There should have been nothing but an "ok, I'll send the confirmation", from her.

buckeyetrucker · Jan 15, 2022

trees said: ↑

Rates are constantly changing during negotiations, she never accepted your offer or sent a rate con. Therefore, that rate was never confirmed. Every new, or subsequent call to the original inquiry, starts with a new offer, or modification to a previous offer. She had it posted for 16. You called and said you'd accept 16. There should have been nothing but an "ok, I'll send the confirmation", from her.
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And that right there is how it should have worked. So simple and easy. Oh well, I ended up on a much better load thanks to her.

ProfessionalNoticer · Jan 15, 2022

buckeyetrucker said: ↑

And that right there is how it should have worked. So simple and easy. Oh well, I ended up on a much better load thanks to her.
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