CH Robinson not a good broker...

Best paying loads I ever hauled was for CH Robinson, and Schneider. It's not them !!!

 

Can't blame them -right!! There will always be $1.oo a mile truckers...unfortunately !!

 

As I've said several times. Freight rates are NOT down! It's these Bottom Feeder brokers that think (in tis case) $800 for pushing a few papers around a desk and a couple of phone calls are worth that kind of money!

I'll agree that having to out up with some of the drivers out there today can maybe run the cost up but still EIGHT HUNDRED FREAKING DOLLARS for at the MOST an hour and a half of work?

I cringed every time my dispatcher had me call CH Roberson on the phone as most of their brokers were idiots that I talked to!

Now does that 1300 miles at 2600 look like rates are down? HMMM? I would love to see any other conformation sheets tht drivers get scanned and put on here as proof that brokers are STEALING out of your pockets! Maybe someday most of the O/O's will be learn how to be able to work directly with shippers than a thief of a broker!

 

Rates are down because somebody is taking the freight, it's the industry it self that is messed up. If freight wasn't moving the rates would rise, but to many O/O will driver for a loss.

Mark

 

Rollover,

I had near zero results trying to work directly with shippers. Economy being what it is, they find it easier to pass the task of arranging shipments on to brokers and 3PLs, and can lay off the people in the transportation department and realize additional savings. One point of contact from the business viewpoint of the shipper is much easier to deal with. One O/O with one truck can cover how many loads for a shipper in a week? It may take contracts with 100 different O/O's or more, just to make sure they get shipments moved. I'm not defending anyone, just pointing out the practical business aspects of how much of comes about.

Do the shippers pay any less for moving their freight than before? No, in fact I've talked to some that pay a bit more, but the savings in laying off their own employees makes up for the difference.

Best thing to do is say no to cheap freight, but not everyone can afford to do that all the time when there are bills to be paid.

 

we get this all the time. there is another container company that will cut everyone else to get the loads, hence the rest of us get screwed. ch robinson has done right by my company over the years, we do a lot of work for them.

 

I've hauled loads for CHR that paid $3-4 a mile. That was over 2 years ago, in a dry van. And at the same shipper were trucks loading the same freight, but only making $2 a mile-and he was bragging about it !!!
Currently the market is FLOODED with trucks, and will be for at least 2 more years !!

 

Of all the loads I pulled for CH Robinson I never saw a $3+ load! Never even heard of that till now! Rates actually aren't down that badly. but as you said drivers will take or under cut a load in a heartbeat and not realize who still made the money with no work!

This is a link I use to figure watch the rates on produce. http://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/wa_fv190.txt I also use it when I broker loads. There are many more that the average driver doesn't know about or want to pay for to get the information! I do not haul dry crapola as those loads don't pay what a cold load will! WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS! (to keep arguments down!)

But having been around CH loads and listening to others who have pulled their loads they WILL skim more than is "fair" but there is no law about it so they do what they do!

Now, as to gettng loads from shippers it really isn't that hard especially if you live close to them and work with them on an out bound load and have the operating capital to wait for them to get their payable receipts out in the usual 30, 60 or 90 day cycle.

I had a company close to me that I hauled for pulling chicken and pork to NYC and made very good money from them. I also had "honest" brokers I could work with that paid on time and only took a livable wage of $150 or so off the top for the loads.

But those days are gone where a handshake and your word meant something! But it's still possiable to procure your own loads.