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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Beaver9, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    funny thing is shipper approached me with a similar deal. I told them I’d be interested if you can prove to me what your paying for their loads to the broker. He provided me with a rate that’s lower than what I usually get the load for. While he didn’t know my rates I realized what he’s doing. Some drivers were booking to loads for way cheaper than I was. One of them told this guy the rate they booked for.

    long story short I told him what I will do it for, and he realized that his cheap rates aren't going to work with me.
     
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  3. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    Single truck op, I don’t see how a dedicated thing would be advantageous in todays inflation. You can tell them your rates are going up, if they don’t go for your new rate. You are then free! You can then just do the spot market in order to protect yourself with this inflation. It’s not just about your diesel fuel cost, everything is higher. If they agree to your higher rate and prices go up again next month, what then? Every one complained about the inflation, well they voted in this administration they can now enjoy it!
     
  4. Beaver9

    Beaver9 Heavy Load Member

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    Actually, that didn't happen here. That is how I survived my first months when everything crashed. The shipper did lower the rate only by $100 and gave me an extra day to run.
    My rates were higher 30% than on load boards when many were sitting at home.
    It is not easy to break that loyalty.
    Last week I raised only $100, notified two brokers. Still my rates are at average or just below the average.
    Not bad rates but I see higher rates off load boards. I didn't raise my rate with the shipper yet. I will try to raise it by $100 per load. I run two loads for the shipper. But I will start somewhere.
     
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  5. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Hope you are averaging $3.00 a mile min doing that if it is a decent run. If you are doing anything less you are wasting your time.
     
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  6. Beaver9

    Beaver9 Heavy Load Member

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    I agree. The rates are higher but not as high as they should be. That is what bothers me. Costs are higher.
    And parts are not even available when there is need. Things we can't predict but easily can put anyone out of business.
     
  7. Beaver9

    Beaver9 Heavy Load Member

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    I average $5.30 to $6.00 per mile before the costs are written off. But I run empty miles back. So, practically I'm paid $3.00 per mile or close to it.
     
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  8. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    I understand. Sounds like you're getting lucky so far. You're going to have to raise your rates though. Everything is going up and fuel is out of hand now. Think about what you're going to lose in down time when the shop can't get a part you'll need. It all adds up. It's like bleeding a slow death from a hundred paper cuts.
     
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  9. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    What’s your average loaded miles per load?
     
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  10. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    Hopefully you are getting close to 2K a day running it. That is my target point if I am running 450 or over. If 100-200 miles I want min 1500 a day min. and that is without tolls.
     
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  11. Beaver9

    Beaver9 Heavy Load Member

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    I average 400 to 500 miles per day.
    I usually stay under the range of 300 miles for insurance purposes. I would make longer runs but I can't if running regular loads. My schedule isn't as flexible. I have to fit one, at times two loads, between my regular customers.
    I'm home every night 3/4 of the time.
     
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