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Setting up a new Authority: waiting on IFTA account

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by lip zee, Mar 20, 2022.

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  1. Mar 20, 2022 #1
    lip zee

    lip zee Bobtail Member

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    Hello,
    I am leasing on to a carrier and they handle my IFTA miles, payments and calculations through their IFTA account.
    I am setting up my own authority in TX.
    Is it possible to run under their authority, and apply for my own IFTA account using their MC, DOT, cargo and liability insurance for the 90 days while I'm waiting for my IFTA account to clear?
    And after it does clear, can I transfer it to my new authority once I get my IRP account and insurance in place?
    I'm looking for the most seamless transition possible.
     
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  3. Mar 20, 2022 #2
    scoobertdoo

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    HUH???

    If you are leasing on, they should send you a temp packet.
    In that packet will be all you need to run, and you will not setup your own IFTA account.
     
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  4. Mar 20, 2022 #3
    bad-luck

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    No. IFTA goes with the company that has the authority. I recommend that you hire a company that will handle everything for you for a fee.
     
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  5. Mar 20, 2022 #4
    God prefers Diesels

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    Who is covering insurance? Reason I'm asking, is you'll need current insurance of your own to activate your MC. After your MC is active, you can go for IRP. After IRP is active, you can go after IFTA. Point being, you can't even start this process until you have your own insurance on your own rig. You can't even get your MC active until that happens, and you can't activate the rest of it until your MC is active.

    It has to be done in a certain order, and it won't even start until you have active insurance on your own rig.
     
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  7. Mar 20, 2022 #5
    062

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    If the lease is for a period of 30 days or more, the parties may stipulate which party (the lessor or the lessee) will report and pay the fuel tax. If the lease is for a period of less than 30 days, the lessor will report and pay the fuel tax unless the lease contract designates the lessee as the responsible party and the lessor has a copy of the lessee's valid IFTA license.

    Fuels Taxes Frequently Asked Questions
     
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  8. Mar 20, 2022 #6
    lip zee

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    Right. I'm looking at TCS, OOIDA, and NASTC for helping with setting up and compliance.
    But what I've been told, perhaps incorrectly, that IFTA is federal, and DOT/MC is State, and there is nothing legally obligating an owner op to use the carriers IFTA account they are leased on to.
     
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  9. Mar 20, 2022 #7
    lip zee

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    I want to set up my own IFTA account while I am still leased on, and run while I wait for my IFTA account to be approved, at which time I can get my truck under my own insurance IRP and authority and begin running under my own numbers.
     
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  10. Mar 20, 2022 #8
    God prefers Diesels

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    Depends. If you're running under their IRP, then you're running under their IFTA. Who's paying for the plates? If it's you, then you need to handle IFTA. If it's them, then you run under their IFTA.
     
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  11. Mar 20, 2022 #9
    bad-luck

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    DOT/MC is federal, and IFTA is done through the State your authority is in. You can't get your MC# until you have insurance. One you have insurance there is a 21 day waiting period until your authority will be active.
     
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  12. Mar 20, 2022 #10
    God prefers Diesels

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    That's the thing. You can't get IFTA until you have IRP done and over with. You can't even start IFTA until IRP is done.
     
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