Trucks- John Oliver

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by basedinMN_, Apr 4, 2022.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Did the govt end poverty by passing a Minimum Wage law in 1935? Did the govt end unnecessary medical deaths by requiring everyone have medical insurance? Did highways deaths end by creating NHTSA? Did drug addiction end by making drugs illegal? The govt doesn't end problems, they build careers for millions of bureaucrats and provide unlimited opportunities for donors to donate money for the politicians promising to "fix" some problem and other politicians promising to prevent that problem from being "fixed." The only true way to fix customer delays is for enough trucking companies to charge a high enough fee beginning 1 minute after the appointment time that the customer fixes their process to always ship/receive on time. The govt "solution" will not stop customer delays but it will also create more inefficiency and other problems created by the govt "solution."

    Several enduring problem in trucking can be improved if there were massive consolidation in the trucking industry. That means instead of Knight-Swift owning a couple percent of trucks/movements they, or someone else, own 40% of the industry. Trucking needs to be more like the auto manufacturing or smartphone manufacturing or airline transportation, etc. Once the biggest players in an industry are big enough to dictate conditions to customers the customers' worst habits will cost customers and those customers cannot simply move all of their business to another trucking company more desperate than that big trucking company. Even if all the citizens and all the govt's agree to do the impossible you cannot do the impossible. Human nature is not changed and cannot be replaced even if the govt claims they have a fix.
     
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  3. LtlAnonymous

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    This is very much a chicken and the egg argument. What if they have to pay those people more now so that they don't become homeless? Lol

    It takes a special kind of person to worry about a raise for someone making $7.25 an hour when companies get BILLIONS in WELFARE every year. Lol
     
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  4. LtlAnonymous

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    I voted libertarian in the last election, so I get the sentiment of what you're saying. But these companies are run by absolute sociopaths. We need protection, because capitalism unchecked leads to Enron, the 2008 banking crisis, and myriad other examples.
     
  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Inflation is caused and only ever has been caused by one thing, govt devaluing the currency. No corporation can or has ever caused inflation no matter how many elected politicians claim that they do. The govt runs the printing presses they are responsible for inflation. The politicians want you to focus your anger at the companies charging higher prices to deal with the inflation and govt policies that cause more expense to companies providing the goods and service you buy.
     
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  6. Plantfoam

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    If they have included one more thing in the video, it should have been the parking situation.
     
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  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Companies transfer lots of their employee expense by using the lumper services. The expense the receiver pays to the lumper service is a business expense that is deducted from their revenue, making their tax bill lower. When the govt imposes rules businesses pay accountants to find their way around those rules. This is one reason why govts don't fix problems, they transfer costs and problems to others.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Govt putting limits on capitalists just creates a few more levels of corruption and more opportunities for donors to hand over bags of money to the politicians promising to "fix" a problem and other donors giving bags of money to other politicians to block any change to the "fix" the govt just implemented. Govt is a human activity and humans are corrupt, even and especially the ones claiming to be fair. A moderated capitalism is less effective at giving employees and shareholders wealth, more effective at transferring wealth to govt officials, and that further corrupts capitalism and govt. EVERY adjustment to capitalism to "fix" some problem leaves more people in poverty and creates more govt and business corruption. Until economies or governments are able to perform without humans there will be unfairness, corruption, and injustice. Every other economic system just produces far more of each while leaving more people in poverty. You might as well demand govt stamp out friction or gravity.
     
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  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Paid parking is the long-term solution. It costs money to provide parking. Paid parking is the most fair solution and allows those that accept it to pay and those that don't accept it to keep looking for their free hidey-holes.
     
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  10. basedinMN_

    basedinMN_ Medium Load Member

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    And yet, the shipping market wastes millions of hours holding parked trucks in detention every day.

    You said it yourself tscott, the trucking side has no leverage because it's too fractured. The problem is worse when big shippers, Amazon, Wal Mart, etc are invilved- the companies who move the most freight.

    There's a similar but opposite situation in beef right now. There's plenty of beef, but only four major meat packers who hold capacity down so they can low ball ranchers while jacking up prices on the retail side.

    Could rewind to earlier in the 1900s when people worked 70 hour weeks in unsafe conditions. They didn't have bargaining power because their employers fired anyone for whispering the word. Enter the Department of Labor.

    Sometimes markets produce very inefficient results. When workers get injured unnecessarily on the job, that's inefficient. When they can't produce their goods at a profit, chances are there's an inefficiency somewhere. When trucks park for millions of hour every week in detention, that's wasteful. This dogma that markets always produce the best result is just not true. Usually markets are efficient, and I don't want a Bolshevik takeover or anything, I love capitalism, but there are exceptions.
     
  11. LtlAnonymous

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    I don't know man. That's just something we can never agree on. Deregulation destroyed this industry, energy, banking, the list goes on. Some checks and balances need to be in place, with good people in charge. But that last part is the most difficult.
     
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