Loophole to remove Automatic Restriction

Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by DesperateCDLstudent, May 6, 2022.

  1. DesperateCDLstudent

    DesperateCDLstudent Light Load Member

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    I’ve seen it done but I will provide a resource to accredited sources. I don’t think it’s published anywhere as a rule, it’s just a loophole which probably means they don’t say it can’t be done so they don’t stop you from doing it.
     
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  3. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I took my class B with air brakes..... I took my class A in a hotshot. Air brake endorsement was still on the class A. Same thing. Doesn't matter when you take what test as long as you take it. You can take a test with a manual as long as its in a class A or B commercial vehicle. Pass the test & that's the end of it.
    In the scenario of the OP, lets say you only want automatic restriction initially to drive a class 8. You change jobs & need a manual for the new job in a class B. Just take the manual test, remove the auto restriction & you can have a class A with no restrictions on trannys. You can drive a class B with a Class A license.
    The OP is correct. As long as you take the test, it dont matter what your driving as long as you pass the manual driving test in a class A or B... class 6 or 8 vehicle. Doesnt matter ... same thing.
     
  4. Sixela918

    Sixela918 Light Load Member

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    Not always. I trained and tested in auto and no restrictions on my license.
     
  5. abc_sg

    abc_sg Bobtail Member

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    What state was that in? I have heard of / seen this too and wondering if it's true or is it just a state by state thing but there will still be a federal restriction in a database somewhere. Have you ever moved and had to change the state your license is registered to. Or is it possible your school / test examiner simply forgot to check a box somewhere on the completion form (lol, but seriously I wouldn't put that past many of 'em)?
     
  6. Henley

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    It's not unheard of for test examiners to make mistakes like that, but that discrepancy could pop up later when the CDL is renewed. Around here in Wyoming, about the only testing we see outside of CDL schools are people trying to remove the automatic restriction. You do not need to attend a school to do that, but I could see why some might sign with a school just to have access to a truck. Most of the ones removing the restriction around here already have a job that wants them to start driving a manual so they train them at work and let them use the company truck for testing.

    But for the record, the only things that require a school are:

    Class A or B for the first time;
    upgrading from a B to an A;
    Passenger endorsement;
    School Bus endorsement;
    Hazmat endorsement.

    One note about the Passenger endorsement: if you have a Class A already and add a Passenger endorsement to it, the endorsement will be restricted to Class B vehicles only, unless of course you test for the endorsement with a Class A passenger vehicle, and there aren't many of those around.
     
  7. Sixela918

    Sixela918 Light Load Member

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    This was in AZ. I have no idea why?
     
  8. Concorde

    Concorde Road Train Member

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    Depends on the State.
    One may let you do it the way you say and another may make you take the backing maneuvers and road test in a semi with a trailer…I want to say it’s either VA or PA that basically makes you test all over again..
     
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