Hello All,
No joy finding a thread that discusses Team Driving HOS so seeking assistance here, please.
SCENARIO: The husband and I depart out of home station after a 34 hour reset. Driver 1 (me) logs driving time, while Driver 2 (hubs) logs OFF Duty. Question 1, is this legal? Question 2, Where is the FMCSA guidance and/or team driving rules documented (their site is a train wreck).
CONTEXT: Intent to logging OFF Duty is to avoid starting Driver 2 clock so we can shift change at our discretion. If he logs SLEEPER out of home station, he’s obligated to stay in that status for 8 hours min. Most times we need him available prior to the 8 hr min.
If you know where we can find an excellent source for Team Driving HOS, not hearsay, please advise. Thanks for your help!
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1.. You can only be off duty in a moving truck (in the passenger seat) a maximum of 3 hours before or after a 7 hour stay in the sleeper.
2. There is no minimum time for sleeper berth. You can be there as long or as little as you want, but keep in mind point 1. You have to be on duty if you don't meet the criteria.
You might want to read part 395 of the green book for reference.
Federal Register :: Request Access
Specifically for the off duty limit.
On-duty time means all time...
(4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than
(iii) Up to 3 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 7 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;tscottme, Accidental Trucker, Another Canadian driver and 2 others Thank this. -
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I thought a co-driver could only be off duty for 30 minutes while the driver is in motion, but I guess it's 3 hours. If the truck is not moving, you can do any combination of off duty and sleeper berth. So you can log sleeper leaving the house for as little time as you want, you can log off duty during breaks or fuel stops, just make sure to go back to sleeper before the truck moves again. You could do this every hour if you wanted, as long as it adds up to 10 hours without going on duty, or as long as you don't log off duty for too long while moving.
If you interrupt your sleeper before the 7 hour split by going off duty, it just means you have to complete a 10 hour break that would include what you've already done in the sleeper.PNwMtFlwr, Another Canadian driver and ZVar Thank this. -
Thank you, @loudtom. So, both just off a 34 hr reset, I drive the first leg, when is he legal to drive? Regardless of how long I drive, when is he legal to drive?
We’re trying to establish a standard time for shift change. So if we leave late on Dispatch Day 1, say 1100 hrs., and want to seat swap at 1500, we’re not sure if he’s legal b/c he didn’t log at least 7/8 hrs in the SB. Since he came off a 34 hr reset, it seems like he would be legal b/c he would have 34 + 4 hrs in SB while I drove. I hope that makes sense.Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
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My husband and I are team drivers. When I’m driving he is in the sleeper. When he’s driving I’m in the sleeper. We are never off duty while the other one is driving.
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He generally drives more of his shift than I do but it doesn’t matter especially coming off of 34 reset. Now once you start your week when he goes to the sleeper he needs 10 hrs in the sleeper before he can drive again. We always try to stop the truck where we can both sleep at least 4 hrs without bumping down the road so that’s how we do it. He may drive so 9 hrs then go to sleeper for 4 hrs then we wake up I drive for 6 hrs he’s ready to start driving after my 6 hrs. Then I’ve got to wait a full 10 hrs befor I start driving again.
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395.3 MAXIMUM DRIVING TIME FOR PROPERTY-CARRYING VEHICLES:
(1) Start of work shift. A driver may not drive without first taking 10 consecutive hours off duty;Another Canadian driver Thanks this.
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