Got a couple of questions. You are keeping paper log today because the ELD is malfunctioning, then you switch trucks to one which has an ELD working fine. You used paper log from 6am to noon, at noon you are on ELD. What do you do with a log sheet with a half day completed on it? How do you handle the certifications when the ELD asks for a certification for the last 7 days. Hope I have explained the situation well enough.
ELD & Paper Logs
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Grouch, Jun 12, 2022.
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Easiest way is simply go in and edit the times in the ELD if it's only been half a day, then certify the next day. Toss the paper log.
You can keep and use both. You will, of course, need to follow HOS rules and ignore available time on the ELD for today. If you get pulled over though, well it's easier to just hand the officer and ELD and don't even mention the malfunction unless he asks. -
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But to answer for the last several days, I mean you can but there really is no need to. It's really all about the "If I get inspected, what's the easiest way to explain to the officer." Is it easier to just edit the ELD, or show the paper logs. Keep in mind form and manor violations are almost nonexistent on ELD's. But it really boils down to what you feel more comfortable with.Still undecided and CAXPT Thank this. -
I feel bad somewhat for newer people who haven't had to do paper logs like us, and is thrust into having to use them because of the form and manner violation possibilities, and just for the sheer inability to have had the extensive experience of using them daily without making mistakes.ZVar, gentleroger and 25(2)+2 Thank this. -
We have or had the problem of 2 ELDs, as the first one was given up on.
Problem is, it still worked for the few using it, so I got stuck trying to use it when my ride was down for fixing. And the lease company didn't provide ELDs, either, so there was that. Either trying to use one with a spotty performance record, or none at all to use. I keep a paper record, unsigned, unless needed, in addition to the machine.
Form and manner can still exist, if you don't fill in all needed blanks, as well. And with the current one, you have to certify before you do anything, and later edit and recertify to correct mistakes, and spotty cell service, due to myriad reasons, ensures that happening much more than it should. -
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