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Discussion in 'Truck Stops' started by deskjockey, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Oh, I'm sure they are, Donny. They just wanted to come on here and cause problems. Honestly, I don't see that establishment staying open for very long, with the attitude that they have.

    Here's a good scenario: My husband is tired, wants to park and go to bed, but will fuel in the morning, and grab some breakfast. Are they going to make him pay to park that night, and then spend the time to issue a refund in the morning, when he does buy something? Talk about holding up the line at the register. :biggrin_25521:

    Its business like these that will go under. YOU DON'T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!!!
     
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  3. deskjockey

    deskjockey Bobtail Member

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    Big Don, you are right.
    I just wanted to post some things I thought it would be nice if some drivers thought about, but knew it would be met with much belligerence. I neglected to consider the rational, reasonable people who could discuss without being insulting. My mistake, I apologize.

    But with that said, I see I wasn't far from wrong on the belligerence thing, was I? Same type of attitudes I have to deal with at the desk if dare to say something.
    But I don't want to be rude to the people who are open to a reasonable discussion, and some of those posts I would like to address;

    This is so wrong! I was not telling anyone I "set them dumb ### truckers straight", I 'm sorry if that's what you think.
    I really thought I did a reasonable job of not being belligerent or insulting, but I know my original posts weren't perfect.

    As for yours, and others, comments along the lines of not liking the job, I don't know where anyone got that, because I dared to bring up things I see that shouldn't be happening, or shouldn't be done.
    Did I write on and on about all drivers are this or that, insulting with every phrase?
    I don't think so. In fact some people I consider some of my best friends are drivers I've met while working there, or as best of friends as we can be considering that we don't live close enough to get together. And I have so many of my regulars, and not-so-regulars, that I have a lot of fun with kidding around or just talking about stuff, so I don't know where the "not liking job" thing came from. Maybe it's just easier to put what I wrote off on that.

    I'm sorry that you only saw my posts as derogatory. Of course a great deal of that was probably my own fault for the "hit & run" posture I took, and again, I apologize for that.

    As for attitudes you've encountered at fuel desks, and other things mentioned like someone talking on a cell phone, etc., as I mentioned in one of my original posts - I know, I've seen it. I've seen it from others where I work, I saw it when I took road trips and stopped other places.
    I'm sorry for that, but at the same time, sorry, but I'm not responsible for the way every other fuel desk people act, even where I work, I have no control over it, I'm nobody's boss. I am only in a position to shake my head, and do the best I can when I'm working.

    As for the paid parking and safe parking for drivers - I understand about the safe parking problem for drivers, I understand it is a problem, but wouldn't it be fair for you (and others) to understand that we need to take care of our customers, and not TA's customers?
    We had drivers, regular customers, the ones who actually support our business, who would stop in and say they weren't coming there anymore because there'd be no place to park.

    See, this is an example of what I was talking about - tell someone not to do what they are not supposed to do, and look at the attitude.
    But that's okay, I'm used to that. I don't expect you to not park on the fuel island because I said something, but here's the part that amazes me;
    Before I started working there, I thought that drivers would have consideration for other drivers.
    For example, you mention nothing about what I said about people like you being rude to other drivers, who pull in and want to use the fuel island to, you know, get fuel. That's not even the slightest consideration?

    And I see a lot of this type of attitude - an "I don't care where I park as long as it gets me closer to the door", with no concern or consideration if they will be hampering other drivers from being able to manuever easily in or out of the property.
    It's odd, that I have to be the one to mention stuff like that. As drivers, you know what it takes, the room needed, or what it's like to wait for someone blocking your way, I would think you, of all people would be mindful not to park in a way that interferes with other drivers.

    Okay, that's it for now. I apologize again for the hit and run. I shouldn't have worried about those that would just be insulting or belligerent. It's easy to scroll on by those.
     
  4. deskjockey

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    Oops, I forgot this last post;
    Again, I did not come on here just to cause problems, but I answered that in my last post.
    And as for the paid parking thing, we are not biting the hand that feeds us, we are actually protecting the hands that feed us - the customers who do business with us. As I mentioned previously, many of our customers actually told us they were glad we started the paid parking. The only ones who have complained are the ones who just wanted to use us for a place to park.
     
  5. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Read my scenario again. How is that handled. We do it all the time. Pay to park, forget it, we are moving on. At the end of the night, the last thing a driver wants to do is get out in the cold to "buy" something. The only thing that he's thinking about is his bed, and some well deserved rest. Your numbers will drop, as far as patronage, when you start enforcing the pay to park thing. Because many drivers will not do business until the morning. But you've never been on the road with a trucker, so you really have no clue what comes into play with planning their day. :biggrin_25520:
     
  6. FriedTater

    FriedTater Keeper of The Snakes

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    The only thing you forgot was "returning"
    Even though I agreed with 90% of your previous post content
    You just got upgraded to full Coward status IMO :biggrin_25510:
    Your only as good as your word and you just surrendered your
    full face value.


     
  7. Donnyh

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    DING DING ! I WAS RIGHT!!!:biggrin_25522:
     
  8. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

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    When you say "I may not want your job, and I guarantee you, you would not want mine. Besides bringing home a fraction of what the lowest paid driver gets, all those idiots I mentioned..." it is hard to imagine you like your job.

    A couple of things could be called insulting I guess, but for the most part your complaints about some drivers and the same things that drive many of nuts also.

    As for the 'setting the truckers straight', well, when you post nothing but negative and run like you did you seem very disgruntled and it's not hard to imagine you telling the guys and gals at work about it.

    Paid parking, that's a tough one. I can see both sides of it. I usually fuel every second day but I sleep every day. Sometimes I do just park in the lot and don't do any business there. For the most part I make it a point to grab a meal in the restaurant if I don't fuel. I eat out for one meal a day usually and I like a good breakfast. I won't fuel at a place though if I know I wouldn't be able to park there for free if I didn't because that place is no good to me the other times and I don't support them only when it's convenient for them. I hope it works out for your place but I can tell you I have seen many places where they tried that and then stopped it. I assume they didn't find it to be profitable.


    I'm a little confused on this one. Most fuel islands have plenty of room for a driver to pull up and then stop after fueling. This allows the pump to open up for the next driver and allows me time to get the receipt, take a pee, fill out the logbook etc. without being in anyone's way. Now, if your fuel islands don't have the space for that I agree with you.

    Knew you would be back :biggrin_255:
     
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  9. deskjockey

    deskjockey Bobtail Member

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    You are right, I can only go by what my customers tell me. And for years, it was complaints from paying customers that made it clear we had a problem.
    So what are we doing wrong - listening to our customers? I thought that is what we should do.

    Wait a minute, I was knocked for saying I was posting and and saying I wouldn't be back, now I'm knocked for coming back? Okay.
    As I said, I came back because I realized it was rude, but I guess it's a losing proposition either way.


    Hahaa, yes, as for being back, like I said, I considered the "rude" factor. I know I've gotten in discussions with drivers at work about these very topics, reasonable discussions, don't know why I wasn't considering that possibility here.
    And thank you, now this is the kind of reasonable "discussion" I was afraid I might not see.
    When you said,
    "for the most part your complaints about some drivers and the same things that drive many of nuts also." - a lot of what I wrote is from my customers, drivers complaining about others blocking the fuel island or parked so they can't get out. Frankly, it doesn't affect me at all. No matter how any drivers park, when it's time for me to go home, I'll still get out.

    As for the space on the fuel islands, that is our circumstance, we don't have the room for pull ups, otherwise, it's probably not an issue that would have ever come up.
    And also thank you for seeing both sides of the issue on the parking.
    Our regulars that we get to know, of course, myself and others just give them a permit without a second thought whether they get fuel or not. Yes, I know that's probably not fair to drivers we don't see as often and get to know they fuel there, or eat there regularly, etc., I'll be the first to admit that it's not perfect, probably never will be.
    But in the end, it was a result of listening to our paying customers. Like I mentioned about parking at the fuel island or parking so it's blocking other drivers in some other way, it doesn't affect me, or anyone else that works there, we will still have a place to park.

    Maybe the lesson to be learned from this is not listening to the customers?
     
  10. REDD

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    Call it an attitude or inconsideration if you wish. But I have to ask!

    Do you know anything about the laws from the Federal Government regulating us truckers?

    If you do, then you will know that every minute of the day counts against us! When you go on break, you can clock out & stop your work hours until you return from break! I can't!! So being a driver for 10 years, I have learned that it takes about 15 minutes to fuel a truck! So I don't waste my time searching the parking lot looking for a place to park when I'm doing a grab & go! I don't block the pumps to where other drivers can't access them! I pull thru, run inside & do my thing, then out the door I go! Usually takes 5 minute or less unless the dummy at the fuel desk offers to sell me stuff that I have no intentions of buying!

    And like I said earlier.... If you don't want my business, you best let me know before hand & I'll take my business up the road!

    This all reminds me of. Situation I encountered at Lee Hi Travel Plaza!!! Same attitudes that I got there! Lee Hi was my primary fuel stop & eatery. Then 1 morning around 2am I needed to do a grab & go... Got the same attitude that your showing here! So I left my items on the counter & carried myself up the road to Whites! Whites was happy to see me & I have transfered all my Lee Hi business to Whites!
     
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  11. buzz1670

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    i'm glad the OP came back.100% of what he says is true.I've seen guys use the squeegees on the fuel island to was their windows and trucks.then just throw the squeegee on the ground,next driver complains to me about the grease and oil on the squeegee like its my fault.the consideration for the other driver is few and far between.sad
     
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