So lately I've been using exemptions on my ELD to sort of but not technically if you think about it cheat.
So as for some examples: a previous time I used adverse conditions to get myself an hour and a half away from a shipper that sucked up all but 7 minutes of the time I had left and this last trip I used it to give myself extra time so I could just drive home instead of sleeping in a truck stop and I was also about to throw in personal conveyance if I couldn't beat the clock (which I did, being governed at 83 comes in handy around here).
This load I'm heading out in the wee hours of monday morning next week is a 10 hour out and back. It's over a lot of mountains, even though I'll be light I'll be really pushing it to get back in 11 hours and having to strap and unstrap will probably burn the rest of my work day, so I'm expecting to use personal conveyance and just drive home instead of back to the yard.
Now from my understanding I haven't done anything technically illegal though perhaps pushing the definition of adverse conditions. So my question is am I pushing it too far? Is using exemptions on a weekly basis going to throw up red flags or is me being technically not illegal probably if you think about it good enough?
Am I abusing HOS exemptions too much?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Lohse, Aug 7, 2022.
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Backhaul is empty?Lohse Thanks this. -
In the examples I gave of previous times I was loaded, heading back to my home city.Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
Since return home is paid miles loaded/empty, it can't be used. -
11h or 14h?
Are you doing it every day?
14 on duty and 10 off duty and then repeat?Lohse Thanks this. -
Not everyday but once or twice a week on the way back to push home, I keep running out of hours only an hour or two away from home and I really rather sleep in my own bed rather than the truck if I can help it.
When I'm heading out to receivers I don't really care because I'm sleeping in the truck regardless, I stop a couple hours before my 11 hours is out in the early afternoon so I can get a nice parking spot.Another Canadian driver Thanks this. -
I would have told my story like this:
My next load, I have to cover 600 miles and I'll use .5 hours to secure the load and 3 hours to unload.
On my way back I'll do a reload in the same place and it will take me 1h to secure.
If you tell your story a little less vague, then solutions might arise.
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If the run can't be done in 11 driving hours, it needs to be planned better to get it done. There really is no exception that is valid.
Even adverse driving isn't likely valid as it requires a true unknown at the start of the trip. Normal traffic doesn't apply, even rush hour traffic.
Examples of Uses of a CMV that Would Not Qualify as Personal Conveyance
Time spent traveling to a motor carrier’s terminal after loading or unloading from a shipper or a receiver.Cattleman84, tscottme, 48Packard and 15 others Thank this. -
I'd say yes-ish. I'd also say you're working way too hard. If you have to use adverse conditions or personal conveyance too much, you gotta figure out a way to get better with your time. You have to be ok with sleeping in your truck sometimes. Using those too much can look a bit suspect either to your company, DOT, or both.
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But if you are an O/O with your own authority, the personal conveyance could be used to move an empty equipment back HOME.
No terminal move mentioned.
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