Non-CDL use?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Freighttrain, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    I would not say stupid, but daring. They drive right by the scales and they do nothing.
     
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  3. Freighttrain

    Freighttrain Light Load Member

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    Dang,how far out in the sticks do you have to be to require 300 mile trip to the race track?We have 4 within 40 miles of here 5 if you count the Dega Super speedway!6 if you count the drag strip too.
     
  4. tmlonghorns

    tmlonghorns Light Load Member

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    Last post on this subject.......
    I am not reading some manual here. I am basing what I say on FACTUAL EXPERIENCE. Could everyone get away with it, no. But in my case the facts are what they are and I have been put through the ringer on this one and come out smelling like roses. I am 100% legal.
    I have talked to SEVERAL people with the Federal Motor Safety Carrier and State Police.
     
  5. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    that wasnt what he was talking about...
     
  6. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    Why don't you try reading THOSE RULES, then maybe you wouldn't come off so......... After all the published rules and regulations are what make you legal not your FACTUAL EXPERIENCE. Go ahead and get one of those officers to put that in writing. Then maybe you might be creditable. Here's the rule for you,


    §382.107 DEFINITIONS
    Commercial motor vehicle , means a motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles in COMMERCE to transport passengers or property if the vehicle-
    (1) Has a gross combination weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 or more pounds) inclusive of the towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 4,536 kilograms (10,000 pounds); or
    (2) Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 11,794 or more kilograms (26,001 or more pounds); or
    (3) Is designed to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver;or
    (4) iIs of any size and used in the transportation of material found to be hazardous for the purpose of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act (49 U.S.C. 5103(b)) and which require the motor vehicle to be placarded under the Hazardous Material Regulations (49 CFRpart172, subpart F)

    No where does it say if you have a IRS letter. So go away with your 100% legal because you're not.
     
  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    The key word here is what is classified COMMERCIAL.
     
  8. LostSoulCA

    LostSoulCA Medium Load Member

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    There are a lot of folks that buy class 8 tractors and use them to pull their 5th wheel RVs. They are not commercial, they do not go through weigh stations, they are not subject to DOT regs, they do not keep log books, they are not required to have class A CDLs. Many of them install a sink, toilet and microwave in the sleeper and register the tractor as a motorhome.
     
  9. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    But few that pull semi trailers for personal trips.
     
  10. phroziac

    phroziac Road Train Member

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    i always wanted to convert a semi tractor and 53 foot trailer into an RV. Mine would be obviously converted though...there'd be windows in the trailer..duh....

    but then i realized it'd be easier to just convert a flatbed. :p
     
  11. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I understand there's questions when it comes to trophies and such but in this case I'm refering to the poster that thinks he's not commerial which clearly he is because he SELLS his horses which comes under commerce. He believes that another federal organization over rules the FMCSR because he likes what it says and he has gotten by with it.

    Granted commercial is broad but if your truck is of size and you're making money from it there's no question there.
     
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