16 hr Rule

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Grouch, Nov 28, 2022.

  1. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    If you're using Motive, make sure you're on the screen that shows the date at the very top, the grid, and then the list of duty status changes.

    Tap the circle with the plus sign in the middle of it in the bottom right corner.

    A menu will pop up. From that menu, choose "Take 16-Hour exception" (assuming that your company has it enabled).
     
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  3. Grouch

    Grouch Road Train Member

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    I have just been reading about this 16 hr short haul and came across that drivers are restricted to this if they run under 150 air miles. I run 295 miles one way, so am I legal if I use this 16 hr rule?? Probably why I could not find the exemption on the ELD that we use.
     
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  4. Grouch

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    I have an feeling that my company does not allow this to be activated. I just read that this rule is restricted to drivers who run 150 air miles or less. I say that 100% of our runs are way over that limit. Probably why I could not find the exemption on the ELD
     
  5. Suspect Zero

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    Yes. You are allowed to use the 16 hour once every 7 days unless you have had a 34, which will reset the once every 7 day calendar, but you will have had to start and end your last 5 work days (regardless of if you have had a 34 or not) from your regular working place. and you must return to your regular working place the day you use it.
     
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    That may be a company choice. I know by me I can use it and regularly run farther out than 150 air miles, but it does have to be approved by the mother ship.
     
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  7. Grouch

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    I start and end my work day at the same place, day after day after day. Boring as hell, LOL But Ithe whole work day amounts to 590 miles. 295 out and 295 back. Same time, same place, boring as hell. LOl
     
  8. Grouch

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    Here is my understanding of the "16 hr short haul rule". Underline the words "short haul" and the meaning is 150 air miles radius. Funny, I hauled milk for several years and the Ag Exemption, we didn't even start logging until we reached the 150 mile radius. All the work we did within the 150 mile basically was vapor, disappeared in thin air. I could run around 900 miles and still be legal.
     
  9. ZVar

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    Short haul is a bad description. Thee is no distance limit. There are three criteria though.
    1. Must start and stop from to the same location for the last 5 days. (No, the shop down the street doesn't count.)
    2. Must release from duty (off duty, so no warehouse work afterwards) at the 16 hour mark at the latest.
    3. Can be used once every 7 days or a 34 reset.
     
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    Well, if "push comes to push", I am going to take your word for "gospel". I do meet all three of these criterias.
     
  11. ZVar

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    Don't take anyone's word as gospel. The regulations aren't that large for HOS....
    Federal Register :: Request Access

    395.1(O)
    Property-carrying driver. A property-carrying driver is exempt from the requirements of § 395.3(a)(2) if:

    (1) The driver has returned to the driver's normal work reporting location and the carrier released the driver from duty at that location for the previous five duty tours the driver has worked;

    (2) The driver has returned to the normal work reporting location and the carrier releases the driver from duty within 16 hours after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty; and

    (3) The driver has not taken this exemption within the previous 6 consecutive days, except when the driver has begun a new 7- or 8-consecutive day period with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours as allowed by § 395.3(c).
     
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