HOS question

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by notstrokin67, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. notstrokin67

    notstrokin67 Bobtail Member

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    me and my brother will be runnin as a team. i will be driving first so my question is after i log my 11 hours driving time would he be able to immediately log his eleven and then we could both go off duty for 10 hours? or will his time be up at the same time as mine even though he was not driving? we have a dodge 3500 so there is no sleeper berth
     
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  3. jtrnr1951

    jtrnr1951 Road Train Member

    Not a team doable set-up.

    Need a sleeper meeting the regulations !!!!
     
  4. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    After you're done driving your brother may drive for a maximum of 3 hours depending on what time you started. Your brother's 14 hour clock would end the 14th consecutive hour after he came on-duty.

    11 + 3 = 14

    The 11 hours your brother spent riding is on-duty not driving counting toward his 14 hour rule.

    Be safe.
     
  5. JPenn

    JPenn Road Train Member

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    Just out of curiosity, are there prescribed dimensions for a legal sleeper? I've seen a few International Transtars (I think) with what looks like an extended cab and the drivers have told me its actually got a bunk.

    Seems like if that's the case, a quad cab pickup is only some curtains away, oh and perhaps a more bed-like rear seat.
     
  6. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    There has been much discussion on the sleeper berth issue with 1 tons and medium duties . No 1 ton rear seat will meet the required dimensions . A Canadian company sold a product called the CrewCab Sleeper they advertised as meeting FMCSA requirements . It didn't . They installed bubble windows to meet the width requirements but they failed to meet the height requirements .
    Here's the regulation with requirements .
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=r49CFR393.76
     
  7. jtrnr1951

    jtrnr1951 Road Train Member

    Quad P-U won't do it. Search the regulations for sleeper requirements....
    Very specific about it......
     
  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    The RV transport companies won't allow contractors with duallies to log sleeper berth unless they have a sleeper that meets the requirements . A few do .
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  9. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Understand because you are team it really means one thing, the truck can roll 24/7 usually if both have 60/70 hrs available.

    Lets say you start your day at 8:00 am, that means your 14 ends # 10:00 pm, however you finish your 11 hrs of driving up by 8:00 pm, once he gets up and enters lines 3 or 4, his 14 hr clock starts so he has from 8:00 pm to 10:00 am to do his 11 hrs of driving, if he takes until 10:00 am to do that 11 hrs of driving your 14 hr clock wont' start until 10:00 am, if you get up immediately.

    Anytime you are sitting in the front seat you are on-duty so you want to avoid sitting in that front seat so it doesn't start your 14 hr clock. Don't even sit there for 1 minute cause D.O.T. might catch you, has many drivers in the past.

    I hope this helps a little better.:biggrin_2556:
     
  10. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Note he said they would be using a Dodge 3500 pickup . He'd be on duty anywhere in that truck . There is no sleeper berth . No back seat in any 1 ton truck can qualify as a sleeper .
     
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