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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Big Road Skateboard, Jan 30, 2023.

  1. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Well, I have slipped once today.
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  3. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    That looks like the Hwy south of Lolo? @LameMule
     
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  4. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    That’s when I park. Lol. I don’t mind snow but I’m not a fan of ice.
     
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  5. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Yeah, -10 is way safer
     
  6. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not….
     
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  7. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Im actually being serious.

    Lets assume you have 1" of ice, at 30 degrees its top will melt and refreeze eventually with little effort, its like an ice skating rink, tap the brakes and the friction and heat from the tires will make you slide. Worse, at just 30 degrees, the base wont cement itself to the road surface.

    At about 5 to 10 degrees, weird stuff starts happening, its cold enough that your tires may melt the ice, but only the leading edge and barely at that, most of the surface area of your tire patch actually reefreezes and gives you MORE traction, not less. At negative 10, its much more pronounced.

    Its like licking a frozen metal pole. Ice is slippery when wet, but "sticky" when dry and colder than "freezing"
     
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  8. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Colder temps freeze the moisture out of the snowpack. If your tires look wet, then yes your traction is compromised because they are melting the surface you’re driving on. When it gets cold enough, mid-teens and below usually, your tires won’t be doing that anymore. If you’re on ice or snow and the tread of your tires is white then you have good traction.
     
  9. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Ah, we are saying the same thing in different ways.
     
  10. rch10007

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    Yep, worst time to drive in cold wet weather is after the sun drops and temps hit 25-28...
     
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  11. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Im not a fan of the places that brine just before rush hour at 5 degrees below their brine mixture freeze point.

    Gotta know whats going down on the roads cause that messes with where (what temp) the ice is slippery versus frozen.

    7 or 8 years ago, I 94 kalamazoo to battle creek, that was a poop show of epic proportions. 3 mph was too fast, vehicles were sliding off the road from tapping the brakes once at that speed. Most troopers in a ditch per mile I ever saw
     
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