Hourly pay

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by JamesDewey, Feb 7, 2023.

  1. JamesDewey

    JamesDewey Bobtail Member

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    With the computerized log book it’s seems like it would be far more fair for the driver to get paid an hourly rate. I have been out of the industry for about 10 years but I remember doing the math when I worked for CRST and learned I wasn’t even making minimum wage. Why won’t the trucking unions back this?
     
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  3. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

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    They paid by the mile because they bill by the mile.
     
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  4. JamesDewey

    JamesDewey Bobtail Member

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    i didn’t know trucking companies billed by the mile. Seems some loads pay more than others that are the same mileage. Every company has labor costs and for trucking the driver is the also the commodity. The more cheap truck drivers you can get the more money you make.
     
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  5. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    You can choose to work at companies that pay per hour, pay per mile, pay percent of the cost charged to customer, etc. Nothing in the regulations require drivers be paid by one manner or another. Fairness is not the issue. Pay by hour does makes a certain amount of sense since the driver's time is measured. But laws are passed one at a time and there is no need to re-make all previous laws after a new law is passed.
     
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  6. Terlingua

    Terlingua Medium Load Member

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    A lot of people seem to think that being paid by the hour will magically double drivers average earnings. It wouldn't happen. It really doesn't matter how you're paid if you're paid well. There are plenty of people paid by the mile making over $100k.
     
  7. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    I agree wholeheartedly. The OTR sector looks at linehaul or P&D drivers and think that their model works the same as OTR. That's 2 different sectors of trucking.

    It doesn't make a difference what log book you use honestly. I've used paper and computerized. I've made more money on an ELD, with less wasted effort, than I ever did on paper, even if I cheated. Regardless of how I logged, it wasn't always an incentive to get to a delivery early. Walmart, as well as many other receivers never take loads early. You worked for a carrier that's considered an entry level job in the industry. As a driver gets more experience, he/she will see more money. With mileage pay, you can't expect to run home every week and expect to see top dollar. You will only get what you put in.
     
  8. scott180

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    Water company bills by the cubic foot. Electric company charges by the kilowatt-hour. How are they paid.
    Are dispatchers paid by the mile?
     
  9. Graham Cracker

    Graham Cracker Light Load Member

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    upload_2023-2-8_15-22-37.gif Paying drivers by the mile is just a way to pay you little to nothing for as many task as possible. But when that driving line is on the peoplenet you gotta move quick to make any money it you’re by the mile.
     
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  10. bryan21384

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    If you're a dockbumper, you really ain't doing anything besides driving and backing. It's pretty easy. You ain't gotta move quick, you just gotta move efficiently.
     
  11. RockinChair

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    Apparently some OTR dispatchers are paid by the mile or by the load.
    But water and electric companies don't have individual employees responsible for producing their own gallons or kWhs, so it's not feasible to pay them piecework.

    And believe me I am not defending paper-mile-schemes (yes, I used the word "scheme" intentionally). I think they are outmoded, unfair to drivers, and have a detrimental effect upon safety and morale - especially when coupled with the 14 hour rule and ELDs.
     
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