Why a strike? The CSA 2010 will cripple trucking.

Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by MCR6468, Feb 26, 2010.

  1. JustSonny

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    It's worse than that....it's 3 years for violations found during inspections, and 5 years for reported crashes. The way I understand it, EVERYTHING that a driver has been cited for will factor into BASIC scores. Did a driver get a "fix it ticket", was it reported?, it's on record and fair game!

    Part of the rationale/justification behind CSA 2010 is that if driver "behaved" in an unsafe fashion in the past, that driver will continue to "behave" that way in the future unless there are swift and sure consequences. Believing this, FMCSA is not about to hold themselves out to public scrutiny and legal vulnerability by saying, "Okay, we know you've been bad in the past but we're gonna start you out fresh and wipe the slate clean". Not gonna happen! Their stance is, "If you did it before, you'll do it again, see ya!"
     
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  3. jtrnr1951

    jtrnr1951 Road Train Member

    Old new,

    Being run by the feds, how do you think it's REALLY going to be ????

    Curious...............
     
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  4. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Glad I said see ya to trucking...:yes2557:
     
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  5. Rocks

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    One day I may say see ya to this country... if they continue to control and regulate and tax our lifes like this. Just need to find what and where... :scratch:
     
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  6. Rocks

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    I heard CSA will be at the truck show in Lousville, KY the end of this month. I plan on going....
     
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  7. JustSonny

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    Pure speculation on my part, but.....DOT is going nail the carriers and drivers they've been wanting to nail for some time. Your "run of the mill" bad company and your "run of the mill" bad driver have little to fear. Terms used in some of the literature, such as, "worst of the worst" and "surgical precision" make me believe they (FMCSA) will aggressively, surgically(?) go after "the carriers and drivers responsible for a disproportionate number of the crashes and fatalities". Thresholds levels leading to "Unfit-cease operation" fitness determinations will be set high enough to let most carriers slide under the bar but low enough to "closeline" the true targets of CSA 2010.
    One thing that seems to be happening RIGHT NOW is a sort of purging maneuver by carriers with respect to their regulation-challenged drivers. Although it's true that terminating a driver now will not prevent that driver's record from being part of the initial BASIC scores for the carrier, it'll sure as hell stem the bleeding from future scores.
    If the "initiative" succeeds, DOT has a ready-made guillotine for future beheadings, just lower the threshold scores. "Hey guys, we can drop another .25 from the deaths/100 milliion. Drop the threshold another 3%, let's see what that does." Sounds mercenary as all get out, but as long as big trucks and little cars share the same roads....... (Hmmm, may Bernanke can consult!)

    (Okay, to answer your question about being run by the feds......it's going to be a clusterfiasco, um kay?):biggrin_25514:
     
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  8. big wheels

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    I was talking to a dispatcher yesterday say it going to take 2 years to fully change over to the new qc 200.

    He said it takes $2000 dollors to change over one truck to the new qc 200.

    He stated that covenant has 28,075 trucks on the road. 28,075 times $2000 =$56,150,000.00 wow!!!!

    The next thang he said was they were only installing the new qc In the 2010 and newer trucks. And maybe some 2009, Only with low miles.

    So It sounds like covenant is going to be buying some new trucks. Alot of trucks.

    Will thats all I got for now. Waiting on aload. check back later.
     
  9. RollinRupert

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    You got it :biggrin_25525: Now the facts of the matter is times are a changin. Many people chose to ignore the RFID chips, now granted they are not in our hands yet, but they have been in military ID cards for quite a while. Now they are in all passports and enhanced driver licenses. They contain medical coding, your profileing, and everything you ever told your priest. The CSA info will also be on our licenses along with our medical cards all rolled into one. POINTS = MONEY. We are living in a high tech world, and yes, pretty soon a police officer will not have to get out of his car before he know who is in a vehicle and everything about that person. Its nothing new just a more efficient way of collecting and storing personal data and sharing it with any law enforcement officer without your HPPA release while turning Americans into passive sheep. Everyone will comply because this is the New World Order and nobody really seems to care that we are, losing all of our personal freedoms every day. :biggrin_2556: Not for nothing but what ever happened to "I know when to drive and when not to drive".
     
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  10. MCR6468

    MCR6468 Medium Load Member

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    ROLLINRUPERT, that was a great post. I have for the longest felt that we have been turned into a society of sheep.The govenment has its hand in everything about us and we are being made to believe that it's for our own good.But the loss of personal freedoms is not good and no one is really saying anything about it.
    What's next? Having ID chips implanted into us? Our society is caught up in such petty things that we are not paying attention to what is really happening, or to what is coming.The pharoes of Egypt said they would live forever and maybe one day return, I think they did, and are now in Washington DC, with their taskmasters and tax collectors.
     
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  11. lowjo

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    hmm.. some time back i read about how the usda/fda are pushing to have RFID chips in the TIRES of all livestock trailers. Mainly to monitor the 'conditions' of the animals during transport..one scan on the tire will tell everything about the haul,the amount of time stopped,everything... anyone else know something about this?
     
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