Landstar drivers get less

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by MeatHead, Mar 27, 2010.

  1. MeatHead

    MeatHead Medium Load Member

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    ;;; half drunk....LOL

    Ha ha ha.....
     
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  3. MedicineMan

    MedicineMan Road Train Member

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    bronc drank the koolaid. im with u, ls can lick sack. its too bad theyre letting the crooked agents ruin the co.
     
  4. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    If LS has something posted on ITS for $2300 & their confirmation states they are holding 20%, would be a strong bet that it would not be signed & faxed back. I haven't hauled flatbed freight since '07 & am sure much has changed, but LS always confirmed/paid the dollar amount that was posted.
     
  5. JoBernard

    JoBernard Light Load Member

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    This is clearly a running your own authority versus being least on situation: I can say this, unless you are getting loads directly from a shipper there is at least one middle man in the picture and in many cases as with a LandStar multiple middle men in the middle, all of which are looking to get paid.

    The option of running you own authority gives you the flexibility to eliminate the middle man altogether, and depending on market conditions you can literally strong arm the brokers to giving you more than what's in the load, that's right I said "more" than what's in the load., why, and more importantly "how":

    The broker may have a hundred loads to get out in one day, he knows the game: he gotta get as much off of as many of those loads as possible, because the loads that he has that are in areas where trucks are weak the "sharks" (expediters) are lying in wait, and they "will not" accept any less on their rates!!!

    and he already know that if he doesn't fulfill his contract to move those loads there are other brokers just busten the door down trying to get a chance to get those loads, so he's going to move maybe about 5% or more of his loads for "more" than he actually book them for and try to make it up on the rest of the loads.

    That's why I say running your own authority and having a working knowledge of how the big picture works give you the greatest opportunity in trucking: in fact I would go as far as to say in all lease situation the company will set it up to the disadvantage of the O/O.
     
  6. average joe

    average joe Medium Load Member

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    If it"s posted on the load borad LS (or anybodyelse) has already taken their cut
     
  7. MeatHead

    MeatHead Medium Load Member

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    I'm not arguing that there are middle men or other people getting their cut. The only thing I stated is that it's posted as the same rate in ITS and the BCO load board. The only difference is that I get it all, not just 73%. I just find it odd that they do that.
     
  8. 112racing

    112racing Road Train Member

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    75% of the time i negotiate to get more than what's on the loadboard never ever have i heard of anybody getting less than the advertised rate (of course untill now:biggrin_25524:)

    last couple of weeks i've been pretty much getting all i want throwing some crazy #'s out because brokers are having hard time getting trucks
     
  9. MeatHead

    MeatHead Medium Load Member

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    Yup, I know what you mean. Things have really picked up and so have rates. Normally there are about 125 loads within a 100 mile radius of my house but lately there's been 300 to 400 hundred and many have been on the boards for over a week.

    If I'm in a hot area I can't even look at loads or my phone starts ringing off the hook. I wish there was a stealth mode on ITS.
     
  10. MeatHead

    MeatHead Medium Load Member

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    This is what I did this month all off the load boards and averaged $1.65 for all miles.

    nh vt
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    vt nd
    1,405 $2,300.00
    nd mn 40
    mn ny
    1,234 $2,300.00
    ny ny 175
    ny pa 258 $506.00
    pa nj 18
    nj tx
    1,927 $3,100.00
    tx la 579 $900.00
    la ms 195
    ms nh
    1,452 $3,050.00

     
  11. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    I can tell you what is going on with the load your talking about. It is a load that a broker has already taken their cut from and posted it on whatever load board. That broker is also a L/S agent and has posted it on L/S board. Or the load has been double or triple broked and the broker who has it posted on load board xyz got it from the same broker as the L/S agent. The load is cheap and that is why its posted on any board. If it was a high $$$$ load you won't even know about it because the agent would have called a BCO before it was posted any place. What I'm saying is it is leftovers.
     
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