Is this flatbed load strapped secure enough?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by equalwaves, Feb 16, 2025.

  1. equalwaves

    equalwaves Bobtail Member

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    Thanks!
     
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  3. broke down plumber

    broke down plumber Road Train Member

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    You got one of them 3 month trainers i reckon .
     
  4. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    Frankly, it was your driving that caused this more than the securement.
     
  5. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

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    Eh....it sounds like it could be both. If the load wasn't secured enough to stop moving (something we discuss in another thread here about van's freight needing securement) and affected the vehicle's ability to maneuver, normal speed could have conceivably caused it to start moving, since the securement couldn't hold it. At that point, momentum takes over. Granted slower speed may have helped, but I agree whole-heartedly with everyone else, that the trainer is the one who should have gotten the strike for this, since it's his training/inspection that failed. Most likely, a 6 month wonder trainer as has been mentioned.
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  6. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    His driving caused it to shift. Blaming the trainer is lame.
     
  7. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Ironically, this thread just popped up yesterday:

    Risk of being a trainer?
     
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  8. Kyle G.

    Kyle G. Road Train Member

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    Agreed, but a good trainer would have gotten on him about his speed before all this happened.
     
  9. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    It is no doubt that a load shift happened. That’s why the truck went over. Could it have made the maneuvers needed and stayed upright if the load was properly secured? That would be a maybe.

    And yes it is right to put blame on the trainer. His responsibility is to teach the skills required to do the job properly. He failed at the securement portion and then failed again at the driving portion. Blame also goes to the trainee for not recognizing that there was a problem with both aspects of this.
     
  10. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    He shouldn't need a trainer to teach him to drive and take turns slowly (especially under load.) Where did he fail on the securement exactly?
     
  11. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

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    This part of his statement, is why it is the trainers fault.
    This means he was assigned to a trainer to train him about things like securement, driving properly under load and the different characteristics of driving with different loads. Unfortunately, it sounds like his trainer was as green or greener than he was. Considering your lack of insight into this aspect of driving and the standards trainers should be held to, let alone your not knowing what was wrong with that securement after knowing what the load was, I sense you may have been a trainer before and are taking personal umbrage to the statement about trainer responsibility, and that makes you angry and no better than that trainer. Sorry if you're offended, but I've dealt with 6 month trainers who are not qualified to drive their own trucks, let alone instruct someone else, and have little sympathy with people that don't take their training responsibilities, serious enough. In your vernacular, NOT blaming the trainer, is lame.
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