Is that load worth going to prison?

thanks but the chair is a very uncomfortable fabric...the room is far from air conditioned in the summer and far from heated in the winter...and this particular "little worm" put himself through college to get a degree in logistics, by driving truck over the road in the summer time...and if you have such a problem with dispathcers.....2 options for ya...buy your own truck and broker your own loads...or change careers....and believe it or not...but I too have a boss, and he rides my ### harder than I have ever gotten on any of my drivers

 

Dispatchers have a way of making it sound like a driver will be fired if they do not make the load, or do whatever it is that they want the driver to do.....it has always been and will continue to be policy here at our house, if its illegal it aint gonna happen, otta hours is otta hours no matter how close you are to where you need/want to be.

Drivers need to have the courage to say nope it isnt gonna happen. Yes the office can give you a hard time, they can hurt your paycheck by giving you rotten runs BUT, your not in jail, your still making some money (while looking for another company) and your conscience is free as you do so. IF drivers would stand up and say no to the illegal running for ANY reason, then the industry would change....

 

Oh yeah, you have it rough

BTW: I have not worked with you so try not to take my OPINION personally. Thank you.

 

Then perhaps you should avoid using generalizations.....and trust me..there are days I would rather be driving one truck...then being responsible for 500

 

The thing is you are not responsible for any... the driver is.

 

there is a difference between being "ultimately responsible" (the driver)
and a sense of responsibility (which any GOOD D.M. ought to have)

 

I do have a sense of responsibility for my guys...if they do well then so do I....Nor would I ever want to see any of them get themselves into a position where they could get into trouble...and by responsible I also mean that drivers are human and from time to time to need a little help from me...the occasional wake up call....directions...and the like...

 

Fair enough.

 

hemisareslow: I am not taking sides here on either part via the driver or the dispatcher: But you stating that the "driver" is responsible for running legal and only the driver. Unfortunately this is a very untrue statement. The Dispatcher and the driver is both resposible for running legal.

You just dispatched a driver on a run that took 10 hours to deliver; he delivers the load and says I am ready for another load, you don't think about it and dispatch him right out to pick up another load not far away; the driver gets in an accident and DOT & Attorneys pull them dispatch records; they will get the company (possibly you) for dispatching illegally and possibly fine the company and of course they will terminate you to make themselves look like they did something about the situation and to act like they had no clue you was dispatching illegally.
Please read below: Drivers and companys are responsible to make sure the drivers are running legal and are dispatched legally. I always say it is a team that should be working together as both of your hineys are on the line, but the driver should not have to be babysitted to make sure he/she is running legal. So yeah you are right in a respect the driver should be responsible, but the law has to protect the drivers as there is companies/dispatchers that run drivers illegal to get that bonus check!
So to both drivers and dispatchers you should not be against each other and you should always remember there is always bad apples in every job and we should not knock drivers as we don't understand their job and drivers you don't understand the mental aspect of office (it is allot to deal with 10 drivers let alone 50 or more1)

So everyone respect each other and make sure you as a driver are running legal and dispatcher's dont assume the driver is running legal always check them out, some will try to get over on you and run the heck out of the truck and it will be a Taylor situation and that is to sad!

Again I am on both sides, I am not looking for arguing back only stating facts as I have dealt with this very issue due to 3 deaths and a DOT audit. The driver manager was fired!

B-2. What are the penalties for violating the HOS rules?
Drivers or carriers who violate the HOS rules face serious penalties:

Drivers may be placed out-of-service (shut down) at roadside until the driver has accumulated enough off-duty time to be back in compliance;
State and local enforcement officials may assess fines;
FMCSA may levy civil penalties on driver or carrier, ranging from $1,000 to $11,000 per violation depending on severity;
The carrier's safety rating can be downgraded for a pattern of violations; and
Federal criminal penalties can be brought against carriers who knowingly and willfully allow or require HOS violations, or drivers who knowingly and willfully violate the HOS regulations