Ain't talkin about no cheapo two-bit border town DOT buster niether. Y'all know what that crap is about. Now you got to watch fer the big names. Soon ya better be real careful what ya strap onto yer rig.
http://www.maquilaportal.com/news/i...re-first-retread-plant-starts-operations.html
http://www.siteselection.com/ssinsider/pwatch/pw070823.htm
I'll never buy another tire from these two, but I guess it can't be long before all there is be crap. There ain't no QC down Mexico way, even if you give it a try, money always gits the inspector to look the other way. How long till theres a blowout from a Mexican retread disgused as a good tire what causes a giant fiery wreck?
I ain't got no problem eatin a taco or burrito they can taste mighty good (best be sure ya ain't gonna be stuck in 30 miles of stop and go case it's hits your belly bad) or a crazy night at the saloon drinkin tequlla and I'm all fer stikin it to the man and keepin more of my pay in my pocket, but I ain't riskin my life rollin on no south of the border time bombs.
WARNING Mexican Retreads
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by bigdaddyo, May 5, 2010.
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You get what you pay for. If it cost less money there is a reason.
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I don't see how that translate to inferior quality? Both Michelin and Continental are expanding their "Retread" department to Mexico where it's more economical for them to stay competitive. (or would you rather see them go out of business?) Take any US auto maker (or any large US manufacturers) and see what percentiles of their parts / goods are actually made in the US of A. Then see how they are doing compared to their peers, how they are priced and if they are still / will be in business in the future? In today's global economy you can't remain isolated and still be productive. If you don't buy retread tires (although I had very good experience with them), it shouldn't bother you any.
BTW - most if not all the (no matter which country they're from) major companies over seas / border implement their own quality controls and standards. Especially for large companies, it'll be suicide to put their name on something that could open themselves up to large law suits.
In NYC areas, it's harder for the big name brand tire companies (even retreads) to be competitive because they're not cost effective for local uses. There are slew of other off brand tires: Mexican tires, Chinese tires (even boot legged no name Chinese tires - they actually have boot legged version of a cheap Chinese tires), Korean tires and etc... How about recapped / retreads of these tires? These tires are cheap. In local running applications: tires wear out faster, has higher propensity to curving / side wall damage, nails, under/over inflation problems, weight, pot holes, drags (tight turns), accidents and various tire damages that shorten tire life considerably. Best bang for the $buck$ would be any cheapest tire available.
Since larger companies have more competition in certain areas, where they do not reap as much (over all), they need to reduce their operating / production cost in order to maximize their profits. Either use/find cheaper labor over here (illegals??) or take the production to cheaper countries in order to supply cheaper / economical products to the general public over here.
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Cheaper = inferior quality. If both tire brands are made in the USA the cheaper tire is cheaper for a reason: Lesser quality materials,less quality control or a host of other reasons. The same applys for two tires made in china or any where else. You get what you pay for most of the time.
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I will never ever by a retread, not worth the time and money sitting on the side of the road waiting for a service truck to show up,not to mention the damage they cause. I would talk about my good fortune just running virgin tires mostly in the south west for a lot of years but I don't want to jinx myself
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Theys some companies that just try and take more off the buyer for there profit and they could sell the tire or hose or belt cheaper but they want to take all they can like some blood suckin tick because they know that the driver or owner or boss likes there brand and will stick with it and not risk buying some cheap China garbidge that could cause a man to sit by the side of the road. Some people is more reasonable with the price of a hamburger steak and some will throw in the fries- that's life. I've had a good all you can eat joint feed me big for 6 bucks and I've paid over ten and had what they call a meal that is not fit for a hog. It is all about being reasonable and doing a good job where a man or a company can make a living. IF i know someone wants a load hauled 300 mile and he needs it bad and I can do it and I gouje him for too much, guess what- I am not getting the call next time until he gets to the end of his list because I was what? A pig rooting around like a drunkard looking for that last slice of pizza that he thought was in the fridge but that he wife had polished off while he was slamming drafts is gonna get locked out of the man can do so.
Be fare in your dealings and realize that some are not but do not assume that cheap equal junk because that is not always the right way to think.
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um....if I sell you a McDonalds toy for $50.00 does that make the quality any better than if I just gave it to you? Sometimes cheaper price just meant cheaper labor costs or lower taxes imposed on the company. No one will deny it's probably cheaper to build and operate a factory in Mexico than it would be in California only because of the environmental regs. I doubt Mexico would make you spend millions on environmental impact studies before you could build a parking lot. Or study how the lights from your factory could somehow interfere with bird migration.
Where something is made has nothing to do with quality. Company standards are the same regardless. These companies haven't been in business that long because they're stupid, most know that rash of product failures would kill them, ask Toyota.
Exactly, right. If your choices are move to compete or go out of business a smart company moves. I'm all for keeping jobs here but you can't force a company to stay. States need to make it easier and more appealing for companies to move to their state. So basically you take a look at all of California and select cities like Cleveland, OH and do the exact opposite.
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jfaulk99, If you want to talk about giving stuff away please call me. My post should not be that hard to understand: Two products made in the USA (or any country) have very similar production costs, Transportation costs, ect. In order to sell for less money cost must be cut some place. I just ordered 4 toyo tires for my lift axle at $1,200. I can buy another brand jap tire for $910. Sounds like a better deal? Its not because the CHEAPER tire is only a 14 ply. You get what you pay for. Argue all you want but, if its cheaper buyer beware.
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THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME PRODUCTION COSTS!!!! And your not comparing apples to applesYou would need to compare Toyo's ONLY made in the US (if they even do that) to one only made elsewhere. I've got one trailer with 16 tires all the same brand and model. I believe they were made in 3 different countries ranging from Brazil, USA and United Kingdom. Now from what your saying the ones made in the USA are somehow superior to the same brand/model tire made in Brazil to the same standards using the same materials?
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How can you not understand: two tire brands made in the USA have similar production costs. Two tire brands made in Japan have similar production costs. I'm not comparing built in the USA vs built in Japan. Your comparing one tire brand made in Brazil,USA,UK. If that toyo is made in Japan and tire zyz is made in Japan the production costs are similar. The only way to cut cost is to make that tire inferior in some way. Please read carefully before you assume what folks post.
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