Rules , regulations

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  1. southernpride

    southernpride Gone But Never Forgotten

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    now as i read thrue the forums and what is supposed to happen in 2010 with the new regs i wonder how much longer ill enjoy this business, me thinks not much longer why? my fault entirly I AM NOT GOING TO COMPLY WITH MOST IF THE RIDICULESS NONSENSE. and yes it may put me out of business well if it does , it does im not going to nursery school to drive a truck jus aint going to happen.

    and put a EOBER or an electrronic lease in my truck, nope it aint gonna happen, hell i wont even check call just don't believe in it when the load goes on my truck it becomes my responsibility not the broker or the shipper and it's none of there #### business what route i take or where i stop, that has never worked and it's not gonna start now .

    now can i get away with all that? well i can't really say how ever i can say that i've been pretty much of an outlaw all my life and i can and will try it one more time im just not going to be controlled by some jack leg in washington that has no idea what this business is, what it means to the driver, what it means to the country, hell they can't even spell truck let alone know what it is , none have a cdl , none know how to drive but they can sure make up some rules, laws , and regulations to make it all better, yeah right about like the blind leading the blind BUT it ssems to be ok with every driver out there, that is every driver except one and that would be ME im just not going to play thee game.

    nows some years ago i had become like most with the attitude that what the hell nothing could be done just try to ignore it , i was lesed to a company then and they put the screws to me big time well iv'e been screwed over before as most of us have but this time it just pissed me off i decided i was tired of it and i was not going to just walk away again, now were talking abot a fortune 500 company, but what the hell i had had enough i got on the internet and found me an attorney that would take the case a young gal from alabama and let me tell you she did her thang she filed suit for me against all this big money and every body said no chance your going to loose WELL as a matter of fact i did not lose they lost and it cost them dearly i walked away with 100.000 in my pocket but it did take me two years to do it , but it cost them so much the next time it comes up they will think a liitle more about there actions.

    i think the same thing applys to the goverent well were about to find out i've had enough of big brother trying to control me and i will resist till my dying breath but in the mean time looks like im going right back to being an outlaw i am not going to be told what to do, when to sleep, what i have to have in my equipment an electronic lease im nobodys #### dog and it aint going to happen while i ive.

    why has it gotten this bad? the answer is simple because nobody has the balls to stand up and just say no we don't want it and were not going to have it forced on us that is nbody but one im making a stand once and for all, will i win? i have no idea but i am going to make a lot of racket. not to mention spend a little money in the process, it's either that or just walk away and go out of business and that aint gonna happen, i've run illegal before and by gos ill do so again , catch me if you can, illpay the tax and move on.

    now there saying if i don't comply there going to revoke my authority well guess what i operated with out it for a lot of years ill do so again DAM THE GOVERMENT AND BIG BROTHER my brother is dead and i don't want or nead another one. simple as that.

    now there are going to be a lot that do not agree with me , quite frankly i don't give a #### none of you agree with anything anyway whats new about that at least im not afraid to fight it . i don't think im afraid of anything in perticular big brother.

    now it's been said that you can't sue the goverment not to sure about that however in any case you can sue the crooked politician that sponsered those stupid illegal laws of that i am sure and guess what it's comming the only hold up is i have to get stopped and cited by the gloryious dot first that will be the start and guess what i can name the arresting officer in the suit it i can sue him in civil court i am oned that is not going to roll over and play dead.

    but all you pro's out there that are going to run off at the mouth about what i have said, well that is nothing new none of you can agree on anything period you just let anyone who wants to do anything they want to you and this business none of you no how to say no , well it quite possibly will put me out of business but they have it to do, but it will cost them money to do it I WILL NOT ROLL OVER.

    all of you in spite of the way things are and the way there going to be , have a nice ride. southernpride :biggrin_25514:
     
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  3. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    Southen Pride, I agree and disagree with what you say. CSA2010 is not going to put a electronic log in your truck. If you or anyone else can't or won't follow the rules and get enough points that may trigger the elc. log being required. As far as running illegal every one can choose do do as they wish. As in every thing in life, get caught be prepared to pay that price. Yesterday in Utah at the scale a step deck had a dozer on and was over by 15,000 lbs. That is wrong on so many levels: not enough axles, possibly not enough exp with this amount of weight,ect. And he took that load from some one who has the equ. to haul it legal. I also wonder what is coming w/new rules but, is the answer run illegal?
     
  4. bullhaulerswife

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    SP, I completely understand you position on this. We also do not want any part of the speed limiters, EOBR's or any Electronic regulation by big brother. Its just not right.

    I think that the government has take things way too far, and someone needs to knock them in the head. Its going to take more than just one person, but honestly believe that there are many more like us out there. Many more that can and will stand up and tell the government that they cannot take away what we have worked so hard for.
     
  5. Winchester Magnum

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    10-fo4, sp. The government is only in exsistance to empower themselves. when this country has limosine liberals who purchase their elections, telling us we cant idle unless it's below 10 degrees, it is beyond obvious the gov/system is broken. With minimal and few common sense laws, there could be probaly 80% complience, but with todays numerous draconian laws, everyone is a criminal, which really is the goal of big government and the elitest running it.
     
  6. southernpride

    southernpride Gone But Never Forgotten

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    good post my friend , but there is more to it then just that, we are in fact working for the same money that we worked for in 1970 or pretty #### close to that.
    every year the goverment comes out with another law , another regulation, another rule , for what they call safty , nonsense, but they do it every year, now when they do it every state says well the goverment did it why cant we , we need money two so just like the goverment without regard for anyone or anything they just add even more. all in the name of safty what a crock nothing could be farther from the truth all they care about is OUR MONEY we are nothing more then an atm for the state and goverment but we got safty yeah right i doubt it .

    for example when you buy a truck,new or used , you have to buy a tag that is so overpriced it's redicules i fl 1300 bucks some states are more but that makes you safe to uh huh. can you run yet o no not yet now you got to by fuel permits from evey state you go thrue the price on that varys from stste to state, now when you go into a state you stop to buy fuel no problem you got a fuel permit , oops check again , look at the pump there is more tax per gallon , thats is safty to right why not they say every thing else is .

    now you grumbel but you go on down the road but not very far nope you got to stop yet again up ahead is a chicken house you got to stop FOR SAFTY uh huh and when you stop guess what here comes a pretty boy with his white coverals, now he is going to check your truck for above all things safty, safty my rusty but, its called a money check and it's his job to take as much as he can, and he does and he does his job very well now is that all, nope , look around at that fancy chicken house all the pretty lights the fancy buildings even got a big ols shop in the back so they can do a thourage check of yur truck and don't you dare forget that log book and if your 30 minutes behind that could cost you a hundred bucks or they can put you out of service depriving you of your right to work to feed your family all that for saftyt right it sure is and its all enforced by everybody's friend the DOT . now you no thats the right thing to do all the DOT is doing is protecting you, they don't want you to get hurt uh uh blees his heart .

    now if you fugure all that up ,all the money you have put out so far and most of it every week times 52 weeks when you come up with a final figure thats what you pay these blood suckers every year aint no big thing it's all in the nake of safty, yeah right if that doseent piss you off nothing will after all it was your money.

    somthing to think about , now you understand a little of why im pissed .

    all take care , all the best . southernpride :biggrin_25514:
     
  7. Winchester Magnum

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    Don't forget the anuall 2290, $550 to the internal REVENUE service.

    If I could only post what some guys do. I know a guy here in wis who ordered a new 54' (yes 54) Dane. It went straight from the dealer to his shop where he started torching on the suspention and adding airbags. Then added an air tank the size of a 55 gallon drum. LMAO. I love the ingenuity of a man who knows how to make some serious money.
     
  8. southernpride

    southernpride Gone But Never Forgotten

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    i thank you for your comments and your right to get anthing done it will take more then one but i honestly dont no how to achieve that and ive been out here a long time at any rate it's there choice if they want to get envolve they can but i fear nothng will get done wihout it .

    i don't think anything will get done till there is nothing left then there will be nothing left to fight for and im beginning to think that that is excactly what the goverment wants but like i said i might be the only one but im nobodys lacky and im not going to roll over and im not going to comply, enough is enough and ive had more then enough.

    best of luck to you and yours , wish me luck. southernpride :biggrin_25514:
     
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  9. southernpride

    southernpride Gone But Never Forgotten

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    now you can agree or disagree with what i have said that is by all means your choice and that is as it should be, my question to you is this , we are all adults, why do we need so many rules, for safty not really it's all about money our money in there pocket and you think thats right , i think not .

    and as far as paying the price for running illegal i got a flash for you it is cheaper to pay the fine then it is to comply with there kindergarden rules it's just another tax i have to pay, nothing new i've done it all my life i tried to do it legal for a few years but they make it so it's impossibel to comply , so be it thats what they want thats what there going to get , i bought and payed for my trucks without there #### help and i put what i want in the truck period and it goes where i want it to go and i laugh all the way to the bank.

    why is it like this and getting worse, because drivers turn there head and look the other way and say to themselves it's the law so it must be right , wrong , a politician made these laws and there as dunmb as a box of rocks , they have nothing to do with safty it's all about money just another withdrawel from there atm machine but you go ahead and believe what you will when you've been out here long enough you will more then likely change your mind if you stay out here that long .

    best of luck southernpride :biggrin_25514:
     
  10. southernpride

    southernpride Gone But Never Forgotten

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    now recently i have made several post about the new regs for 2010 and i admit i was a little hot and i still am and the more i find out about these so called safty regulations the madder i get and for the most part the answers i got were from drivers that have agreed with me with the exception of a couple but you can tell by there comments that there were school experts which i simply ignore there still young , stupid , and bullet proof.

    but i would like to make a point what i have said are my views and what im going to do no one has topay any attention to what i have said and of course you have the right to keep on doing nothing and im sure you will get the same results nothing. and a lot in fact most will do just that nothing that is why these rules , regulations get passed , we dont need them and they have nothing to do with safty it's all about money , your money in there pocket , you got plenty of money to give , no big deal it's your money , give it as for me i kinda like to keep my money i worked for it they did not and im not there puppy i have not and will not roll over for some poitician that has no idea what the hell he is talking about.

    i am a grown man , i know when im tired and need rest and when i am i go to bed , and i don't need nor do i want an electronic leash in my truck and i aint gonna have one period. it's none of there #### business where i go , where i stop, or what route i take, you guys like and want that thats is fine buy me , you don't have the balls to stand up for your self , good it's your choice but don't ##### about the results i can promise you this it won't stop here it's only the beggining and i can promise all of you your not going to like the final out come .

    any time the federal goverment has ever gotten envolved in free interprise it has been a disaster and this will be no exception in fact it is only going to get worse i have faith in the goverment i no they are going to make it worse'. as far as there data gaterering systen i could care less i havent got a ticket in over 30yrs nor a dot violation but it won't stop there there just starting , they need money and they need it bad , where are they goning to get it ? FROM TRUCKS THATS WHERE , obama has put the whole country in debt that we cant get out of so there going after the old stand by TRUCKS how do i no that , simple they always do thats how we are in fact there ATM MACHINE. and apaerently we all like it we just keep on giving without complaint, we just look the other way and leave the wallet on the counter and tell them to take what they need we are glad to donate to the cause , right by god not me they can go get a job of there own, i might not be abel to make a change or to stop it but i do have the balls to try .

    some of you guys ridacule the outlaw well a lot of us tried to do it legal and what does the goverment do , make it impossible so a lot of us are turning back to the old ways as a matter of fact it is cheaper to pay the fine then it is to comply with there stupid regulations , you don't agree good when you lose your job, or when you lose your truck you might find yourself reconsidring the situation it is comming .

    but you go ahead and hide in the sand and bad mouth all you want when you lose it all i promise i will not shed a tear and ill still be making a living doing what i've alway done burning up the highway, and that is my choice, im proud to be a trucker , a outlaw , that knows how to get it done without BIG BROTHER IN MY POCKET.

    and that is the name of that tune.

    all have a good ride while you can. southernpride :biggrin_25514:
     
  11. HEAVY DUDE

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    I agreed with some of what you had to say and disagreed with some. So that makes me young,stupid,bullet proof,school expert? I get it now, your version of CSA2010 is the only thing you want to hear. I don't like all the new rules either but, some folks don't have good judgement. Some refuse to follow the law. The law is the law for a reason. Just because you or I don't like them changes nothing. If everyone in this country choose to follow only the laws he/she likes, what would happen? Freight will get moved under CSA2010. You can follow the rules or not.
     
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