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Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by bigdaddyo, May 5, 2010.

  1. condocassanova

    condocassanova Light Load Member

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    Some of them companies try and make too much!!! Some buyers is stuck on one brand! A mexican can make a tire but i don't want to pay him when our people is out of work but i also don't want to be out of a job because of high cost..tough issue for mr. Obama to deal with for sure.
     
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  3. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    So your telling me a company in Texas would have the same production costs as a company in say San Fransisco? Sorry but labor costs, real estate costs and taxes would all be considerably different. Just price 100 acres in each state. Did you ever consider the company selling the $900 tire has a more efficient mfg facility? Maybe buys the raw materials cheaper? Just because the price is cheaper doesn't mean it's always due to quality. The prices of computers have gone down considerably since my first one, so I guess automatically that makes the quality worse.

    Which is why government should get out of the way and stop trying to run businesses. The markets work as long as you stop screwing with them. Make a bad product, charge too much or make bad business decisions and your going to go away. Unless someone manipulates the system with bail outs or import tariffs. Put huge tariffs on steel imports to save some US jobs, other countries retaliate and do the same on the stuff we export. So to save one industry you screw thousands of others. It's a cruel world.

    Maybe if we eliminate all tire imports we can save a few US tire jobs and I can start paying $900 per regular tires and $1500 for X1's.:biggrin_2556:
     
  4. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    jfaulk99, Sure sounds good! I gave you an example of tires made in Japan: $1200 vs $ 910 for a set of four. With the difference being the ply rating. You gave a theory of real estate costs of Texas vs CA. No acutal numbers. I guess you win.
     
  5. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    You'd better stick to driving if you can't understand all the factors involved in why things cost what they do.
     
  6. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    I have no problem sticking to driving because I"ve figured out how to make money at it. I've also learned that some folks don't have a clue as to how to make a valid point.
     
  7. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    Heavy Dude, I'm not understanding your point.

    I bought an air compressor recently. It's a Bendix Tu-flo 550. Cat wanted $660 for it. It was yellow and had a Cat ID plate on it. Truckpro had it for $380. It was blue and had a Bendix ID plate on it. The difference in price is apparently the yellow paint, because the parts are identical, built and rebuilt at the same place, and the paint has no bearing on the performance or quality.

    Same with tires. Sure, tires with a lower weight rating will be less expensive. But A Bridgestone tire costing more than an identically spec'd Dayton or Continental or Goodyear (or General or Remington for that matter) doesn't make the Bridgestone the best tire.
     
  8. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    Your air comp. Bendix vs Cat is most likely the same part. Is the warrenty the same? If so the cost difference is mostly Cat vs Truck pro. retail mark up. Buy the Bendix. In the tire example I could have saved $ 290 dollars if I didn't ask what the difference was. When you go to buy a japanese tire from a retail store (or any brand of tire) and there is a huge difference in price there is a REASON. Because two brands of tire sold in the same store built in the same country have similar prodution costs and retail markups. Other than one tire being on sale the cheaper tire is inferior in some way. I'm not talking about a few dollars=inferior. $ 70.00+ cheaper per tire=inferior in some way.
     
  9. josh.c

    josh.c Road Train Member

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    Ok, I think I've got you. I did buy the Bendix, the warranty was the same, the Cat parts guy even told me they were rebuilt at the same place, and said he'd slap me if I bought it from them (Cat).
     
  10. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    I try to explain things well but, as everybody knows not every person thinks/reads/ gets the info the same as everyone else. Confusion results. Life go's on.
     
  11. libertytire

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    The $910.00 Japanese tire is a better deal because......For one you are saving 25% right off the top, two, Japan doesn't manufacture any inferior tires. Bridgestone/Firestone Tier1, Yokohama tier1, Toyo tier2 and finally Sumitomo tier2. In other words, all quality. Lastly DO NOT believe the hype that an extra 2 plys are worth an extra $300 dollars because it is not. Yes they handle extra weight (minimal) but you'll be lucky to see any extra mileage at the end of the day. As a tire dealer, cost difference between a 14 and a 16 ply tire of the same make/model ranges anywhere from $10-25 more although alot of tire weasels will try to bang you for an extra $75-100. Even China as of late has been putting out more and more top quality tires. I know of a couple brands whose steer tires will give 120-150k miles easy, granted your suspension/alignment are up to par. Just my .02
     
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