I've got a 2000 Freightliner classic with an RTLO 14613b in it. It originally had an RTLO 16913A, but I'm guessing that someone went with what was available and downgraded at some point in the last 25 years. The weird part is, this 13 doesn't 13 very well. It should be a single over trans with 8-lo being direct drive and 8-hi being something around 0.85:1. Instead, 8-lo is direct and 8-hi is around 0.73:1. Further f*king the cluster, each high range hi gear is about 50 rpm off from the lo gear above it, so it shifts like a 9 speed with a split top gear, and drives like a 10 speed rpm and ratio wise. Anybody have any clue what and why this thing is like that?
RTLO 14613B Oddity
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by stat.will, Oct 19, 2025.
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Bizarre! I don't see how it could be .73 instead of .85.
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How are you coming up with your information as far as rpm and final ratio
You are correct to my knowledge that the b ratio is approximately.85 and the a is approximately.73
What rear end ratio because high numerical ratios will make the gears seem closer together.
when you say it doesn’t 13 very well are you saying it doesn’t shift properly or that it isn’t very noticeable? -
It's a 3.58 rear with 11r24.5s (about 44"). Bottom 4 shift normal, normal shift to 5-lo, 450ish rpm drop to 5-hi, then 6-lo is almost the same rpm as 5-hi. 6-lo to 6-hi is full gear rpm drop, then 7-lo is roughly the same as 6-hi, etc. The splits on each gear are nearly full gear drops instead of the normal ~250 rpm split beetween gears a 13 should have. The way it works out, you effectively only get 1 usable split gear on the top end.W923, Feedman, Oxbow and 1 other person Thank this.
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I don't know how it was done, but I recall guys swapping gears or something inside the box to make it a "double over". I wonder if that is what happened.
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If they switched gears 7/8 in the trans.to try to get Double overdrive it would have a U shift pattern. Unless they also put a RTX shift rail top on it.
I just put a RTOO-14613 in my truck last week, It has the RTX top which gives it a standard shift pattern.BoxCarKidd, Bean Jr., W923 and 1 other person Thank this. -
If 8 Lo feels like direct 1 to 1 and 8 Hi feels like .74. Then it may have been switched out from .86 to .74 OD gear.. Because it had a .86 before the lower gear will be closer together. The 1 to 1 and then step to .74 is a big step on the top end. That's what the 10 speed I took out had.
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Those older Freightliner gearboxes can get strange when you mix models. It’s running like a ...Frankenstein setup, drives like a 10-speed but is really meant to be a 13.
The 50 rpm gap in the high gears isn’t ideal, but as long as it shifts cleanly and doesn’t chatter under load, you can treat it like an odd 10-speed and get used to how it pulls. -
I'm going to swap it for an RTLO 18913A or 18918B as soon as I can afford to. That truck should never have had a 1400 ft/lb trans installedW923 Thanks this.
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That 1400 ft/lb trans really isn’t strong enough for that truck. Running it like that could fail under load and that’s dangerous on the road. Swapping to an 18913A or 18918B will handle the torque safely and keep you out of trouble.W923 Thanks this.
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