You don’t lose drive time on yard move. It’s an on duty status and would also count toward your 30. The extra money you make squeezing 3 minutes out of your clock while impeding others probably just goes to taxes anyway.
DOCK/FACILITY ETIQUETTE 101 long format.
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I understand how yard move works. I'd rather lose the 3 minutes in transit than at a shipper or receiver. I dont impede others. They can go around me. I'll even get off to the side if docking quickly is that important. If it's no space to do that, then ok its something different. Most places I go to have enough space for drivers to get around so the impeding of drivers argument falls on deaf ears for me. The money is one thing, but I gotta give myself the best chance to deliver on time. I can't foresee what may derail me, but if I can keep my 11 and 14 from running parallel, that's going to be my plan of action. You see it differently. That's fine. Do you.
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Here is an easy one: don't piss in the parking lot, and don't wreck the bathroom. Clean up after yourself!
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I’m the only driver in my terminal who does two things. Running a radio is one. This would be the other. The rest of the drones I work with are too stupid.
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When cheating becomes habitual, you tend to convince yourself its common sense.
If you are constantly abusing the crawl just to make time, that seems like a bad driver issue than a ship/con/traffic/construction issue.
I'm all for bending and breaking rules, there's a time and place, if you make the time and place and an every day thing you put yourself in the losers bracket.
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You're all for breaking/bending rules but creeping is cheating. Got it.
You're entitled to how you feel. If you think I'm a bad driver, or in the losers bracket that's fine. The only opinion about me and my work habits that matters is my own.
As for Werner screwing over the industry, how? Because they were the pioneers of elogs? Because elogs took away a more comfortable way to cheat logs? I actually like elogs better than I do paper. Drivers gave the government enough ammo to make this a law, so wouldn't it be moreso fair to say drivers screwed the industry over? The industry doesn't change without driver contributions.
Werner found a way to keep their drivers compliant, and reduce having to fuss at so many drivers for logging errors and such. Its been about 8 years since the ELD mandate began so it's kind of a moot point now. Drivers claim they love the industry so much, but collectively don't do a great job of protecting it. Every driver may not be bad, but it's certainly enough accidents, enough inspections, enough wrongdoing according to lawmakers' eyes to justify some of the moves they make. The irony, though.....they kind of created the problem. 3 week schools +4 weeks with a trainer with minimal training is going to create sub par drivers.Lonesome, gentleroger and Old_n_gray Thank this. -
This rather long post is full of good information but OP, you are forgetting one very important thing. People don't read anymore.
Better off putting this on Tiktok in about 5 installments if you want to teach the average new company driver anything. -
Drivers didn't give the government ammo to impose ELD it was simply special interests, namely the ATA, wanted the regulation as an anti-competitive measure. The megas loved how easy and foolproof it made HOS compliance but it put them at a competitive disadvantage that smaller companies were doing just fine on paper so they had the government impose the regs on everyone.TurkeyCreekJackJohnson, Feedman, SmallPackage and 3 others Thank this.
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I'm curious how this would play out exactly.
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