DOCK/FACILITY ETIQUETTE 101 long format.

I would think this response time would largely depend on the location in question -- & the thinking within law enforcement in that area at the time of the offense....

-- L

 

Call me a kid for saying/thinking this....but I like how these DOT time records/charts are ALWAYS referred to as, "logs"....

-- L

 

Since Werner was brought into the discussion above....I think it's high time (again) for another epic thread "bump" (for those unfortunate souls who have yet to read this hilarious literary masterpiece):

Werner Trainer Craps Himself


-- L

 

I doubt law enforcement would show up. DOT could run a hotline and just accumulate reports that are recorded for the carrier.

 

Big companies versus small companies......there's no real competition. Big companies have direct customers, and all kinds of discounts on repairs, fuel, and such and to your point the backing of the ATA. If they could get rid of the small man, they would. I'm not so sure that won't happen. Anyway, what I meant by that was that even though the safety of ELDs could very well be a narrative, there was a enough screw ups to allow that to be the talking point in terms of implementing ELDs.

 

Man don't make laugh out loud lol

 

In whatever specific segment every trucking company out here is every other truck company's competitor. The 1 truck guy pulling a dry van working off load boards is competing with Swift doing contract. It's all entwined. Low spot rates drag down higher contract rates and vice versa. Even different segments compete for drivers. It's all related.

Small trucking companies with solo drivers that can legally overnight an 900 mile dry van load have a distinct competitive advantage over a mega ELD solo driver. Mega planners think 2 days is necessary for such a trip and plan accordingly everyone plans trips like that for about 10 years now.. Accidents and incidents were a small percentage back then on paper logs and have actually gotten worse on ELD. The opposite of what they predicted.. That was always the argument used by megas to have everyone on ELD but it just a cover for the real reason, they wanted to level the playing field. Safety is and always has been an afterthought.

 

You see the race the e-log effect everyday when you are cruising along per conditions safely at or below posted speed in a construction zone or high congested area and all the e-log zombies blow by you 10 or higher bumper humping each other.

 

Hmmmm....I suppose in theory elogs level the playing field. Or does it? I've done paper and electronic like many others. I could overnight a 900 mile run legally either way. Done it with a larger company done it with a smaller company. We are small, 200 trucks, but have some of the abilities/capabilities that megas have. We do overnight 900 mile runs pretty regularly. A good, experienced driver should be able to do that, even on elogs. To me, that speaks more on ability than logging device. Sometimes you get 2 days for 900 miles, most of our outbounds operate that way, because of firm appts as you know, like with DCs. Let there be a window.....I'll have it there tomorrow and still be able to reload. Others will take 2 days. Our back hauls are usually designed to overnight big miles back to STL. The distinct advantage I think megas have is the ability to do large amounts of drop and hooks, so I personally don't think elogs levels the playing field all that much. I think the only thing it did was expose a lot of inefficient drivers.

 

You can do a 900 mile run overnight legally but nobody dispatches them under a 2 day window anymore. Fleets with contract don't and brokers don't either. It's top risky. Look, we can argue until we're blue in the face. Big fleets pushed for the ELD mandate that's a fact. Yes ELD's in fact do constrain efficiency also a fact. Big fleets don't advocate for new regulations from the kindness of their big hearts. Congress and regulations are weapons that big players use against the small fish. It's always been that way this isn't just a trucking industry thing.