There’s always been the village idiot. Today, there’s the idiot village. Massive difference.
Trip planning is on the way to extinction. Today it consists of running your 11 out and then hope for one of those fat boy spots in the nearest Loves.
DOCK/FACILITY ETIQUETTE 101 long format.
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by OdderThan, Nov 7, 2025.
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Well said!
I also am fine with Elogs. I like the simplicity. But I run regular freight that delivers during the day and I like to sleep at night on a normal schedule, and I plan my own freight. Most truckers don't get to do all this due to the company they work for or the nature of what they haul.
When Elogs screw me up I either use PC, bad weather exemption or just get otherwise creative. I've ever heard about any of this but I don't seem so ever get inspected either. Been almost 2.5 years.TripleSix, lual, bryan21384 and 1 other person Thank this. -
Ayn Rand said it best: "You're good at running your business, or you're good at running to Washington."Feedman, TurkeyCreekJackJohnson, rollin coal and 1 other person Thank this.
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Trip planning never existed. Back then, it was just drive as long, far, as you want, and whenever you want, because you would redo the log books. I'll add on to what you said today's trip planning is: put it in the Garmin and follow.
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Lol don't speak up an inspection!
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You're a driver and don't understand the business we're in. It has nothing to do with money. Trucking is a service industry. A trucking company that can always deliver on time regardless of an inefficient time wasting shipper or random bad traffic tie ups costing time has a competitive advantage over one that can't. If you can't deliver on time you'll lose business. A paper logs company versus electronic logs company - guess which company drops the ball and has to reschedule deliveries more often due to things beyond their control? Service failures... This is the competitive advantage that mega carriers wanted eliminated and the reason ELD was implemented to level the playing field. There was no safety aspect to it that was just a bunch of empty talk that would get the gullible on board with the idea.Feedman Thanks this.
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Lol I don't believe you ever drove before ELD. Yeah we did trip planning with a calculator and it wasn't on a phone. It was a crucial skill. Schedules were always tighter back then. People ran 4,000 miles a week every week nowadays drivers think 2,500 miles is humping it. Like I mentioned in an earlier post anything more than 500 miles these days is routinely a 2 day transit unless it's a team run versus it being considered a 1 day solo run back then.Feedman Thanks this.
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I totally understand the business we're in. I just don't agree with your premise. On top of that, the efficiency im talking about is from the driver's perspective. On the efficiency topic, your discussing something I'm not even really talking about. If you think elogs really levels thr playing field for big companies, thats fine. I just disagree.
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You don't believe I ever drove with paper logs? Thats so sad. Oh well. Believe what you want. I'm not really in the business of trying to prove my cache to anyone, as nobody matters enough and that would be an irresponsible use of energy.Last edited: Nov 11, 2025
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Drive as far as you want and tear the pages out and rewrite them is not trip planning. Trip planning, properly done, would not require a redo of the logbook.classic_150, Feedman, hotrod1653 and 3 others Thank this.
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