Those who run gliders.....

Yep that what I was referring to also, just
forgot the exact wording posted in the article, build date or model year.

Anyway, your post confused me, why is engine built on 12/23/99 is not exempt.
The truck is model year 2000, but any officer seeing the engine manufacturer date would not have a problem with that.

 

I'm driving a 2017 Pete 389 with a 1996 engine. I've been inspected in many states and usually they'll ask why are you on paper logs , I'll tell them it's a glider and that's that. Only once and it was in Alabama a officer was doing a roadside, he asked me for proof of it being a glider. I told him it was my understanding that I didn't have to carry anything but I would be glad to call the office and get them to email me something. He finished doing his paperwork, everything was good and he apologized to me he had called his Captain and was told I was correct the burden of proof was on him .

 

The model year can be after the current year, like 2026 cars came out in September. My truck is a 1994 model year, built in September 1993. They start building model year engines before, but they can't go into the next year.

I'm curious though. If I put in a 2000 DDEC4 would I have problems, or do you think they would just look at the year of the truck and say "you're good!"?

 

I didn't give all the details, but I am good friends with the guy owned the truck. He ordered a new glider from Peterbilt (less engine and trans), he took the engine and trans out of my truck. His registration said glider and he was never asked about the engine year by DOT. I bought truck off the guy he sold it to.

 

I agree! A friend of mine was stopped by NY DOT on the through way. He is from Pennsylvania and his truck is registered there. He received a violation for not having an annual FMCSA inspection sticker. He explained that Pennsylvania is exempt because Pennsylvania requires an annual inspection and showed her the sticker on his windshield. He got it reversed as well.

I live in Maryland, we are required to have an inspection every 25,000 miles. I do an annual FMCSA inspection and put the sticker on, just to avoid any issues.

 

If the registration says its a 1994 chassis its very unlikely they'd bother to look any further than that.

Theoretically you could use an ELD with a 90's electronic motor, which you actually could use to your advantage to keep the truck eligible at companies that require ELD. If its an old mechanical motor truck it will just be a hard no.

 

I don't think its an FMCSA requirement to have the DOT annual inspection label actually stuck to the outside of the truck somewhere. I just keep the sticker and long form in my paperwork binder.

 

yeah its one of those things you're going to get hassled about sooner or later. If it's a pre-2000 chassis and you're running a paper logbook, nobody would ask questions. Gliders are a loophole I'm not surprised they banned because, you technically *could* plug an ELD into the diagnostic port on most glider kit trucks that had electronic pre-emission engines. Personally I probably would to fly under the radar on the emissions stuff. I've been using Motive and Samsara long enough now to where I would have no interest in going back to filling out a paper logbook every day. Pain in the butt.