Oversize without permits, arguments against.

Permits are not that expensive .

If the cost of permits is a dealbreaker then this ain’t exactly a sweet contract

and you’ve not mentioned the dimensions of the loads

is it just overweight ?

overwidth ?

overheight?

how much over ?

is this a 11 foot wide load ?
Or a 16 wide load that cost $47 million ?

 

These guys thought they could get away with it. Their trucks disappeared shortly after this incident.

Alberta Carrier Fined $85K for Oversized Load - Truck News

No idea what fines the driver ended up with.

 

I'd like to read this "sweet contract"

 

My old gray haired daddy taught me this rule early: Do it right or don’t do it at all.

 

I’ll add to this…. If you’ve done OD/OW for a while…. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do( I’ll just leave it at that). Deciding to do a bunch of loads without permits does not meet that criteria!!

 

Nobody was angry with you for asking. The situation you described is unfortunately very common. People who don't care to understand the legal way of doing OS/OW freight will under bid those of us who try to do it right and then go along and damage infrastructure or hurt innocent people.

It's good you did ask and I hope your boss truly does keep it legal. Most people would've just went on their way blissfully ignorant.

I've quoted loads and didn't get them because somebody came in and submitted a quote for less than my permit+fuel costs. Nevermind paying for equipment or the driver. I knew they were doing it 100% illegal but there was nothing I could do but inform the customer and wish them the best of luck.

 

One of the more difficult aspects of OSOW is that OSOW isn’t covered in the green and white Bible. Thus some of the restrictions can be as Braindead as they come. For example, 10 years ago, if you had a piece of equipment with a blade overhanging the side, like a road grader, Alabama required a pilot car. Little corner of a blade hanging over the side of the trailer and suddenly you have to pay for a pilot car expense. Or how Kentucky would let alow running at night when every other state surrounding Kentucky had weekend curfews, but Kentucky required a pilot car on a 2 lane for an 11 wide. Your mirrors are 11 wide…why do you need a pilot car? So, if you were on the bigroad, but your receiver was 1/4 mile off the exit, do you hire a pilot car or do you bootleg 1/4 mile?

But this was different. Bootlegging an entire contract? Has to be extremely cheap freight. Want to know what it looks like when the State boys find out? Smokey bear sitting on the common oversized route waiting for that black and yellow banner. For example, in West Virginia, OSOW may be restricted from the toll road. They will route all up US19. There will be certain days where they will pull every oversized, looking for permits. Michigan does it above the Mackinac bridge. Florida, all around Leesburg, Wildwood and Orlando. Your POEs in New Mexico, Arizona,Wyoming, Montana, Utah…etc. After Smokey checks your permit, he says, “You wouldn’t believe the number of guys that try to run without permits.”

OP, congrats on getting the permit thing worked out. The next obstacle that you and boss will bang heads over will be the non divisible load clause for a permit to be valid. My instincts tell me that this will be a tougher obstacle to overcome.

 

I think we should make this a national holiday.

A cheap-skate trucking boss changed his mind at a driver's concerns without a big fight or firing him.

This is a first right? This has to be historical.