A few more questions.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Passoverlamb5, May 22, 2026 at 1:14 AM.

  1. Passoverlamb5

    Passoverlamb5 Bobtail Member

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    Bout this time last year I asked this community some questions about going owner op. Most said my plan was no good… and I listened. So for the last year I’ve been saving more cash and doing more research. Here is where I’m at:

    Got cash to buy a truck outright, have settled on an XL classic or fld120, only pre def pre egr. I am extremely mechanically inclined, but never worked in diesels just auto. Can do almost any job on a car. Just put in a hybrid transmission on my car. Pretty sure I can handle most small to medium repairs as long as I can find videos or info on said repair.my my plan is to go to Landstar or Mercer, leaning towards Landstar. Will pull stepdeck.

    this is my first question. First time owner op, should I go with series 60 or n14?? Bonus points for any information on Volvo d12 as info is hard to find these days.

    also, not sure about gearing. Your advice and opinions are appreciated fellas.
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Get ready to spend everything you make on that old truck. I ran an old truck for 10+ years. Truck was great, fun to drive, but it was a money pit. All old trucks are. Doesn't even matter if you're able and capable of doing the wrenching yourself. You're going to be buying a lot of pricey parts and your offtime will always be working on your truck.

    Having been relegated to a company ride for the past few years and being in brand new trucks since that time - there's something to be said for never having to fix anything on these new trucks. I mean you just hop in and drive it every week. The shop services it every 25,000 miles other than that nothing. It gets over 9 mpg hauling some heavy ### reefer loads going through redlights every day. Good luck getting a meager 7 from your old truck on the open interstate, probably more like 6.

    It's hard to compete in an old inefficient truck that needs new parts thrown at it all the time against trucks out here doing 9mpg, 10mpg or even better like it's nothing. I didn't even know this until the other day ago they adjust the clutch in this automated manual transmission by hooking a laptop underneath the dash and clicking on the computer, you can hear the truck itself adjusting the clutch. You won't adjust clutch like that on an older truck it's waste of time/money crawling underneath it. There's just so many ways new is better. Take that for what it's worth and good luck, you're gonna need it
     
  5. Big Road Skateboard

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    I'd listen to @rollin coal first, but to answer your question.

    Neither, I'm a Detroit guy, they are cheap to fix and parts are easy to find. But, they don't have longevity. If you drive the hell out of it like I do, you're gonna work on it quite a bit.

    N14, just no. Parts are hard to find, constant injector issues. But, easy to work on overall.

    Cat is where it's at, all else being equal. Parts are more expensive, but easy to find. Slightly harder to work on than the other two, but still not hard. Longevity is much better than both that you mentioned.

    Fuel mileage between all will be about the same stock. This depends on where you drive too. If you drive it hard, the Cat might get a little better than the other two, if you drive them easy, the Detroit or Cummins might have a slight edge. Not enough difference to matter.

    Resale will be faster and higher $$ on a Cat powered truck, and slowest and cheapest with the Cummins.

    There's a hell of a lot more to a truck than just the engine though. Lots of clapped out late 90's Freightliners out there, so don't just look at the shiny parts.

    If I see a 1k$ steering wheel, 2k$ seat, neon lights inside, and chome on all the switches, but it needs brakes and tires, you know they valued looks over mechanical. I'd stay away.

    You really need experienced eyes to look at a truck.
     
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    Mazel Tov, kiss the money goodbye. I (we) understand fully where you are coming from. Mirrors us in many ways, however, that was then, this is now, and I've been involved in trucking for 40 years, and most of us here will say this is the worst time to buy anything, and used trucks are the epitome of fleecing drivers. Since new trucks are way out of line for most, everybody is jumping on the used truck scene. That part is okay, but repairs approaching $200/hr., some things you just won't be able to do. Insurance. What the mechanics don't get, the insurance vultures will. Taxes, FUEL? How can you absorb $6+/gallon? I paid .79 cents with about the same mpg. The trucks themselves don't do much for me either, used iron and you'll never get ahead. Nickel and dime you, they will. If you are that set to go for it, I'd go a KWhopper, for resale, and the biggest CAT motor I could find. Generally KW is a respected make and O/Os that had them took good care of them. A Volvo or FL, not so much. So many GREAT company jobs, one of my former employers offering a transport driver, $28.50 to start, AND union benefits and can't find anyone. I don't know man, like marriage, we didn't listen either, but the big difference was, when we bought trucks, there wasn't so much to lose, AND we didn't have the luxury of a site like this to tell us what to expect. So we lost our shirts and got company jobs and lived happily ever after.. Please rethink this, eh? Remember, a mishap could hassle you for the rest of your life.
     
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  7. bad-luck

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    Both are good motors. The 60 series will get better fuel mileage then the N14.
     
  8. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    I think we all like to see people advance and move up in the world. Becoming and O/O comes with pride. We get it, but this industry is getting harder and harder. We dont want to sound negative but things in this industry is hard. Even harder for someone just getting in these days.

    I give you credit... a lot of credit for listening to us and waiting before jumping in. Most dont hear what they want to hear and move ahead with thier plans. Most fail. I just want you to understand the risks, be prepared, move up and survive in this industry.
    Ok, so you have money enough to buy a truck but how much will you have in the bank after that? You need to pay the bills, fix the truck, pay yourself, buy fuel for at least 2 months before you ever get a check for payment on your 1st load. Breakdowns, wrecker bill etc. I'm not saying these things will happen, but we know some things will happen. You still gotta get paid, insurance every month. If you're down, you still gotta have the money to pay the bills until you get back on the road. We know those things will happen. If you dont have enough revenue to pay all these bills and repairs for 6 months in the bank, you aint ready. It aint always gonna go as planned. In reality, things are gonna go bad regularly, especially until you get your feet under you in the 1st 2 years. You cant just sit down with paper and pencil and figure the money coming in... all the good stuff... the normal stuff. You gotta figure in all the unexpected trouble that comes with it. 'cause I can promise you, its gonna show up, and you're gonna have to face these troubling times and issues.

    This is a hard industry. The people that have made it didnt get there riding a rainbow. Most have been in this industry a long time. They got in it when it was less problematic & less regulated. Some got lucky. But it aint like it used to be.

    I want to see you get your own truck and become successful but it aint easy and you need a lot of money in the back to get started these days. Dont forget to add in the tough times in your business plans. Dont just note the good times and the normal stuff. This industry is far from normal. I'm just saying plan carefully and make sure you have enough money for anything that comes along. Once you're in, on the road and running.... look at your bank account. If there aint 6 months worh of revenue in there, rethink your plan.
     
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  9. abyliks

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    I’ve owned a 97 w900 with a n14 for 10 years, it was really nice not having a payment when I started out, now I have 52 weeks worth of work and I am just straight over all of it, flying out June 4th to pick my new truck up.

    I spent my first non payment money on my new reefer last week to that is 13 months old… I had to add a quart of oil to it

    oh 2 herniated discs after years of working on old stuff was also a driving lesson, and mechanically inclined doesn’t mean anything when you are in the middle of no where with no cell service and no parts…
     
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