driver regulations as an employer

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Peterbilt0609, May 23, 2010.

  1. Peterbilt0609

    Peterbilt0609 Bobtail Member

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    Good evening everyone,

    I am new to this forum, however, I haven't hopped in the welcome wagon yet. I was more interested in joining a forum due to a problem I have run into this month. Well, I am a very small trucking company. My brother and I own two trucks at the moment. We have been driving since the recession hit in 08. We bought a truck (09 peterbilt) and started driving in hopes to get a small 5-10 truck trucking company working one day. Well, we currently have two and decided to hire a truck driver to driver one truck while my brother and I handle the loads and drive the other truck...etc.

    Well, since I am a small company, I do business out of my home, so i dont supply benefits at all. I hired a driver with a basic set rate. CA-NJ/PA/MD and back for $1k. Now, my question is, am I able to keep him hired under an "Independent Contractor" (google the basics on it if necessary) and not supply workers compensation while operating "my" equipment. I gave him a 1099 tax form and told him, you will be paid every time you turn the invoice into me and it is your responsibility to file taxes. Well, he has the labor board now on my ###, and with a recently rejected load (insurance is handling , but its been over a month) I had to tell him to stop driving because I cannot afford to pay him.

    Now, question is , do i need workers compensation if he is hired under an Independent contractor agreement where he pays his own taxes? or am I in for a ride, because i was served documents today by the labor board for a set court date to appear to pay compensation to him while he was currently out of work?
     
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  3. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    The IRS website can provide you with more detail.

    But.... If you tell him/her what, when, and how to run. He/She is an employee.

    That said...You're dilemma is more one of being a bottom feeder outfit.

    The guy DONE the job he was hired to do. But because the load was rejected, YOU decided NOT to pay him, per your agreement (probably verbal). Yet you still stand a chance of collecting compensation through your insurance. While the driver takes it up the ###.

    I wish you the best of luck with the new CSA rules. Enjoy what little time you have left to dream about owning your own company.
     
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  4. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    If you are going into business, you need to know the laws and abide by them. Sounds like you are jumping into something you don't know. You just can't make things up and stick all the money in your pocket. One truck will generate little. As you grow, so does the profits. Most business take about 7 years of hard work before you start reaping rewards. Failure is way up in the 90% range.

    It doesn't cost an arm and a leg for workers comp insurance on one employee. It's like 7% of his wages which is like $280 month. This is one thing you can't avoid.

    Not supplying benefits is like no health insurance, no vacation pay, etc which you don't have to give. You can give a 1099 and make him pay his own taxes. But workers comp insurance you are responsible for and can't avoid.

    Take a jar of vaseline with you to court.

    If you survive, pay the next guy percentage and maintain workers comp and you know what them expenses are.

    You are paying the poor guy about .18/mile. That's funny.
     
  5. Bigray

    Bigray Road Train Member

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    .18 p/m and he has to pay his own taxes out of that... sheeesh..
     
  6. truckerdave1970

    truckerdave1970 On Probation

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    Wow i thought knight transportation was bad!!! 18 cents a mile??? I I bet not even a mexican would work for that!!! I'm sorry that was bad. Lord, I apologize. ...starving pygmys... Africa...yada, yada
     
  7. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    :biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559::biggrin_2559:
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Just curious.

    Does he have the right to choose where and what he hauls?

    Does he have the ability to decide when to work?

    Does he provide the truck?

    Do you tell him what to do?


    Now, think this over. Would you work in an office for a person that thought the same as you?
     
  9. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    In PA workers comp on a flat bedder is 14.84% runs me almost as much as health ins!!!
     
  10. Peterbilt0609

    Peterbilt0609 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you for your guys imput. This is what i offer to my driver and he's fine with it. He came to me because I offer a really simply way of pay with no hassle, and there really is no other jobs out there. Im not a bad guy, so i'm not trying to blackball him. I spoke to my attorney today, and I will be offering him a team position with either my brother or I for now till everything is back to normal. That way he can only claim compensation for no more than one week and a half. So long as I offer work, his claim under law must stop. Furthermore, the workers compensation program under my company will begin tuesday, my fellows at IRP of CA are helping me out. Other than that, I'll get into the welcome wagon and post some pictures of my equipment and my long rough story of how I got into this business.
     
  11. Peterbilt0609

    Peterbilt0609 Bobtail Member

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    by the way, W.C. in california is 10-12% for drivers.
     
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