Cummins warranty obligation problems?

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  1. razorick

    razorick Bobtail Member

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    So I have had my truck in the shop for six months already this year. One month at the local Kenworth dealer and now it has sat like a brick for five months at a Cummins dealership. I have the Cummins X 15 and purchased the longest factory warranty for the motor when I bought the truck new. I have had ownership pride in my truck and have been very conscientious and stayed current with all of my maintenance and can document that it has all been done on schedule at Cummins certified facilities. The repair has been to the top level Cummins investigative review at least three times and yet both dealerships have had a difficulty fixing the problem and not only that, now the truck is still doing what it did when I first took it in and is making an awful noise that it never made before. Now Cummins wants me to pick up the truck and put it on the road. It runs, but obviously the problem isn’t fixed and my concerns are multiplied. I didn’t buy their motor new and maintain it the way I’ve had it maintained only to dump it before it gets off warranty. Whatever the problem is, it’s likely going to impact the performance and most certainly reduce the longevity of my motor. I think because they haven’t figured it out at Cummins, the economic incentive structure is such as to push me back into the truck, hoping that I will sell it or get into a wreck so their hands are washed clean of their warranty obligations. Even if I were to consider selling it, how do I get my value out of a truck that a buyer would see has been in the shop for six months and is making an awful noise? Am I the only one having problems with getting Cummins to fulfill their warranty obligations in spite of doing everything I need to do to ensure that motor is running right? I took delivery of this truck coming out of Covid and I suspect that the problems I am having with this motor are directly related to quality control problems in the manufacturing plant or the metal foundry while they were trying to get production up and running. I suspect that there are others that are having the same problems beginning to show up and they are trying to shirk their obligations, realizing that there should be a major factory recall that they don’t want to fess up to. Since they are unable to fix this, they should be putting a new motor in and then they may be wondering how many others will they be obligated to do with quality control problems if they were to admit a problem with those motors at the end of Covid?
     
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  3. TheLoadOut

    TheLoadOut Road Train Member

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    Some years ago I had to ruffle their feathers playing the warranty game. So I sent a letter to the Indiana Attorney General, a certified letter to the President of the company, the BBB, just about anybody to be heard. Then one day I get a call from the secretary of the Cummins president, they still snaked their way out of their warranty claims by agreeing to cover 50% of the bill. This was on the ceramic fuel pump plungers that were detonating engines.
    Sometimes you just gotta keep stomping your feet til somebody takes notice.
     
  4. jaffles

    jaffles Medium Load Member

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    razorick, in my experience I can think of a few words that start with a C that describe Cummins. I feel I dodged a bullet over a lousy 3K exhaust brake but vowed never to buy a truck with a cummin's motor again, and sold the one I had. They are miserably scabby for their market size, and have 0 good will.

    I'd talk to some consumer affairs advocacy or lawyer as I imagine you are entitled for loss of income if they have sat on your motor for 6 months. I feel you have read the play and by you accepting it back with a funny noise, you may just sign all your rights to have it replaced or fixed to as good as new under warranty.
     
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  5. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    Its trucking. Everybody in this business is a limp dick moron that wants to bend you over. The manufacturers have been doing this for decades now ....

    What noise is the truck making and what problems do you have.
     
  6. Ok big boy

    Ok big boy Light Load Member

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    The guys I work for have a 2021 W900 X15. Cummins shops, MHC same coverage issues. Just delays for weeks. No we can't find anything. Ended up taking it to an small shop that found the issue. When I was leased to Sammons I had a issue with the DD15. Went to the Detroit shop in Salt Lake on California. They came up all kinds of issues. $11000 estimate for a engine with 450000. Only thing my guy in Amarillo found on their list was a oil pressure sensor $25. I hope you get it resolved. If I am not mistaken Pittsburgh Power does warranty work on Cummins.
     
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  7. jaffles

    jaffles Medium Load Member

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    Not sure if truck manufacturers do it but I assume so, and that's kick the can down the road. A 30yr BMW tech told me that under warranty they fix the big bright light fault on the dash, and any issues around that light that may cause another light. There are however multiple fault codes that don't cause issue with no light that should be fixed, but the dealer choses not to. Reasons like time, staff, cost that all belong to the dealer can be hidden from the customer. And then there is the customers inconvenience as well, as the dealer looks good getting the car back asap. The kicker is when you go to trade the car all of a sudden it's worth nothing because it requires X to be spent on it by the dealer or the next owner.

    Mercedes Bens do this as I have a customer who's 120K car 7 years old was worth 7K as a trade at the dealer recently. Car has 80, 000km on it, no damage and always been serviced as warranty book requires at the dealer who sold it to him. The reason for the low trade was multiple issues need fixing.

    Engine / truck company is just another company, and a companies sole purpose is to make money. Not be a fair friend or business partner, just make money. And these days when companies are so big with dominating market share, they care nothing if you are happy or not, whether you stay or go.
     
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    Sometimes you have to do the things that make better sense. There was a guy @AFC on here a few months ago that I’m guessing went broke over warranty repairs.
     
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  9. razorick

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    I think that I am going to go ahead and talk with an attorney. I think after five months of being cordial, if they were going to make it right that it would’ve happened by now. It appears that being friendly or at least cordial isn’t working. I am afraid by signing anything and taking delivery of the truck just may let them off the current hook just like you say, but I do need to figure out if there are any pressure points that I can use for leverage because this has been completely unjust but unfortunately that seems to be the way too many businesses are operating these days. Thanks for your post..
     
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  10. razorick

    razorick Bobtail Member

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    The problem started when my APU kept shutting down because of large amounts of air in my coolant system. We disconnected my APU from the rest of the coolant system and still somehow, someway exhaust is being pushed into my coolant system with each blip of the throttle. It is not atmospheric air. Currently it is not enough to overheat the motor and not enough to currently impact the performance of the motor, but obviously that isn’t good and will increasingly create thermodynamic problems for the motor and eventually premature failure. The way things are going, it will probably have a major failure 1 mile beyond my warranty period. Somehow coolant is not getting into the engine oil but they’re having a hard time figuring out how the exhaust is getting into the coolant. There seems to be some type of a fissure that they aren’t finding. Since they tore the motor down and put it back together, it’s now squealing between 1200 and 1600 RPM in the high gears on acceleration when the turbo kicks in.
     
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  11. razorick

    razorick Bobtail Member

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    I will have to check to see if Pittsburgh power does warranty work on the Cummins because I’ve had several people tell me that they do good work. Thank you
     
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