2010 International Prostar

You guys made a pretty good point...they're good company driver trucks. Since you mentioned it, I don't think I've seen an O/O running a ProStar. Hmmmmm

 

One of the O/O at my carrier has a ProStar and doesn't seem to have all the issues with it that have cropped up on the forum. He has a 475 Cummins in it.

I would bet that this 2010 that is being considered does not have SCR only because it already has 70,000 miles on it so it probably came with a 2009 engine in it so there was no requirement for the SCR.

Either way, I would not be prone to buy a newer truck like this starting out. Not when there are a lot of decent older trucks that can be had for a song. Besides, why is this one being sold so early in its life cycle? Could this not be because it has already been a wallet buster for someone else?

It might be a little difficult to find a good, reliable pre emissions engine equipped truck, but I would consider a pre 2007 only in that at least all you have to deal with is EGR. 2007 and up you got EGR and DPF. At least keep your risk lower. And a pre 2007 would still be good for California till 2014, if that is an issue.

 

he must of found a shipper thats going to pay him 2 bucks a mile to pay for the truck, buy used T-600 or something 40 grand or less and put a down payment on it, fuel will cost you around .42 to .48 cents per mile, then pay your self about .40 cents per mile and you haven't even paid tax's yet, don't forget that fuel surcharge is income and you will pay the IRS tax on that, and the .90 cent per mile if you lease on to a company, thats why you buy a used cheap truck, so you can make it, be a company driver first, rate's should be better in the spring 2011, thats when i plan to get back into it, been away since 2004 got burn out you may say

 

o ya, international doe's not have SCR, only EGR, when the new set of rules come down in 2012 or 2013 then we will see what international doe's

 

Only the International engine does not have SCR. If there is a Cummins in the 2010, and it is a 2010 compliant engine, it will have SCR.

 

I'm not a O/O but I can tell you this, ANY part for a International or a Volvo is Special ordered. My dads last truck was a 2010 international biggest POS ever.

The "chrome" mirrors on the hood are plastic not real chrome and the actual mirror the glass part is glued YES glued to a piece of card board inside the plastic chrome housing, and when the glass fell out of his mirror and broke it took 3 WEEKS for the international dealership to get the part in from Europe and it was very expensive I can't remember how much. Thats just ONE of the many problems he had with the truck.

The only other thing I can tell you about Internationals, the Company I work for the entire fleet are internationals and they suck, All of our drivers complain constantly about them. To be fair are fleet used to be 379 Pete Day Cabs.


At least if you buy a Peterbilt/ Kenworth/ Freightliner you can get parts every where.



American Trucker

 

My 2006 Intl 9400i is not a money pit. No better or worse than any other truck I have been around in the last 3 decades. Of course, fleet owned and run trucks usually are not taken care of like a O/O would do, so they would have a tendancy to crap out more often. Mine is good enough that I will probably hold onto it for several more years, rebuild the engine and replace components on a timely basis. And since the EGR has been effectively eliminated from being an issue on the ISX in it, the fuel mileage and performance is worth keeping this gal around for a long time. I will never make the money like Bill Gates does, but this truck pays the bills and gets the job done, and is quite reliable. Sure it has had a problem or two in the last 583,000 miles, but what truck hasn't in that time frame? No problem that has really cost me dearly in time or money.

 

A truck is a truck is a truck.
The only thing that I allow to limit me on brand is the engine.
I will not buy a truck that has an engine that parts are hard to get. So that throws out Mack, Volvo, the new PACAR, and the new International engines.
Cummins, Detroit, and Cat can be worked on in many places. Not just select locations.
I would further throw the CAT off of my list also if I am OTR. This is due to several things, but mostly due to cost of parts and crappy fuel economy on average in most applications.
The quality of Pacar products does not far exceed the quality of many non-pacar products. Sure, I would rather have a truck built in the US than somewhere else, but that is almost impossible to find. You would have to hand pick in a lot to try and find a truck made in the US from any company, and even then most of the parts would not be US made.
The resale on pacar products is higher than for others. I will agree with this. But the initial cost is higher by close to the same margen. And if it is a non-aero truck you will probably be loosing 8000-12000 dollars a year in extra fuel costs. Which over 4 years is a good used truck.
Anyway.
I know many do not like my opinions on this, and that is fine. The facts are facts though. If you like your truck to be pretty then buy what you will. I keep my truck clean, but it will never be pretty. It is a tool to make money.

 

I think you are on the right track, ChromeDome. I would even go so far as to contend that there is NO U.S. made truck for that matter. Just take a look at the guts of just about any truck. Made in Taiwan, Made in Mexico, Made in Canada, Made in God knows where else. Even Eaton transmissions and rears have gears made just about everywhere. Sure, the final assembly may be in the U.S., but doesn't mean its U.S. made. I am constantly reminded of this whenever I have to change out a part.

I like the way you think!!! Like a business person and not like a billy bob fresh out of truck school. A truck is a tool to make money. I like my ride clean and will make cosmetic repairs and such, but I am not going to waste money on making my truck look like a rolling casino going down the road with 2 tons of chrome everywhere. I did spend about $300 for some nice looking, custom designed vinyl graphic stensils to make my truck look more business like with my own company name and nice stylish numbering for VIN, but nothing else has gone on the truck cosmetically except what came on from the factory. As a matter of fact, one thing that came from the factory did come off after a few months. That darn bug deflector! I gained about 1-2 tenths mpg by yanking that thing off. I can clean the bugs off the windshield for the money I am saving in fuel.

Oh... I may shell out the extra $$ for some Durabrite wheels someday when I need to replace wheels. That is mostly because I don't have the inclination or the time to sit around shining aluminum. Luckily, I don't have to sit around weekends at truckstops or wait 10-12 hours to get loaded or unloaded. But I do have a farm that keeps me busy when I crawl out of the truck. Even the dual 150 fuel tanks are getting ready to be painted for the same reason that I just don't have the desire or time to shine aluminum. I have to replace fuel lines and support straps anyway, and thought it would be a good time to do that as well.

 

well i may not be a driver but ive ridden with alot of company drivers and most of them im with for 5 to 6 months at a time and the prostars ive been in seemed pretty good with a cummins the maxxforce has never been the best quality engine but to 2010s the shifting is alot better and it has been claimed they go a lil short on wiring and to much ties an tape but they seem to have been better bout wiring and such and it is getting a little more strongly built and they are very comfortableand there a bit more quiet then most im not sure y but dont really care so if i was old enough to drive a truck i wouldnt mind being in a new prostar otherwise to me the 2009 and older are poorstars when they were working out most of the bugs but truly all depends on your package