Crap! Positive U.A.!

Thank god someone finally agrees with me and doesnt say something to make themselves sound like a druggie....

Narcotic pain killers will make you fail a drug test too, and just because theyre in your urine doesnt mean you're high. If I went to work for a company, and had just within the last week or two been prescribed a narcotic pain killer, but wasnt on it anymore, and lets say it was something fairly minor...

Like i got vicodin for getting my wisdom teeth pulled (they were impacted against other teeth and only painful when you pushed on them a little, and were not erupted above the gum, and had to be cut out..ouch!). I only took one pill but i *was* prescribed a whole bottle, and would have been totally in the right if i had taken the whole thing over the course of a week or so. Having my wisdom teeth pulled is not going to make me fail a DOT physical, hell, if i was a driver back then i could've been back to work the next day (i would've used ibuprofen lol).

What'd be the difference if a couple weeks later i switched jobs? Why's that different than medical marijuana? And i didnt need the vicodin but....the doc did not know how much pain i'd be in, and for how long, you know...they arent miracle workers.

Hell, that was some good dope they gave me for an "iv sedative". I was high as a kite! But it was legal! And i was too impaired to drive anything for an entire day, lol...

hell, i was taken out of the office in a wheel chair...

 

Is HERB the new PC term for weed?

 

No. I believe weed has been called herb long before PCs were out.

 

I will start by first saying that had you paid attention to my posts, you would see I don't give a crap what people do on their own time. My own personal experience with "medical" marijuana "patients" is they really have nothing going on more than a toothache that can be cured by pulling the tooth. They use it as an excuse to get high, pure and simple. And even admit it. If someone wants to get their act together and move on with life, more power to them. I know many convicts have been able to do just that. However, if you have been participating in any alternate "medical" treatments, first get your own UA done....before you have DOT do it. Then you won't have to make an end-run around the regulations the rest of us have to follow.

As to my own situation: Injun is no "he" and actually quite enjoys being female. And if you are going to take the time to read the PDR with regard to bupropion, at least give the whole story and not just the tiny snippet that condemns. (Were you a news reporter or lawyer in some other life?) Bupropion does, in fact have a side effect of exacerbating seizures....in higher doses and for those who already have seizure disorders. Oh...wait....seizure disorders would preclude one from getting a CDL, right? Since I am on a low dose, have no history of seizure disorder and have none in my family, the possibility of me having a seizure because of this medication is so low as to be zero. Let's just say that 24 oz coffee in the morning and that half-gallon of iced tea or cola have more chance of causing a seizure than my tiny dose of bupropion. Besides all that, DOT says bupropion is okay, pot isn't. Take it up with them.

Again, it all has to do with paying attention to the whole picture rather than skimming through a post to find something to be irritated about. You were able to take the time to look up the PDR information for my medication, but did not take the time to understand either my posts or the actual risks associated with my medication.

 

Just want to say, you all have 2 different debates going on. One is about whether or not pot should keep a driver from driving, the other is about pot as a viable medical drug.

I am only going to weigh in on the one I have experience with. I was diagnosed with breast cancer. After chemo infusions I would spend hours literally on the bathroom floor with dry heaves. My muscles would be major sore for days. Sure drs gave me meds for the nausea, sadly they didn't work. There were meds that might have worked if I could have afforded the 70 dollar per pill.

I did not use pot, only because i was too sick to think of it. I wish I had. Its easy to say you'd never use it, that it has no place medically. But unless you yourself has been there, I think those opinions don't mean much.

 

I have never smoked pot in my life. That being said, I wish I lived in a medical marijuana state, I would probably start tomorrow. My doctor has been trying to put me on narcotic based pain meds. I don't do narcotics well. Certain painkillers make me throw up severely, others make me so loopy I feel out of control, and unable to do anything for up to 24 hours. Plus, these painkillers are addictive, hard on your body, and expensive. Tylenol based medication destroys your liver.

What is a person to do? Last night my spine kept me up most of the night. When I did get to sleep, my shoulder woke me up feeling like a spike was being driven through the joint. This is either coming from my neck or the arthritis pocket in the spine between my shoulder blades. The shoulder has just in the last few hours eased almost completely eased off. My lower back is hurting quite a bit though.

I used to feel the way many of you do about medical marijuana, but these last 10 years have changed my mind. Am I to take narcotic based painkillers, become addicted, spend all my money on these drugs, destroy my body in the process, and in my case, take something that does not help the pain, but instead makes me sicker. I have excessive stomach acid, acid reflux, and a hital hernia. Ibuprofen based painkillers work the best at relieving pain, but destroy my stomach. Tylenol based painkillers help some, but will destroy the liver.

What choices do I have? I would try pot tomorrow if I wern't concerned with what I may receive as far a something being laced, and there wasn't a chance of being caught. I've also never smoked a cigarette, but if it means being able to sleep and function again, I'm willing to smoke that joint. I'm not judging anyone in cronic pain doing what it takes to get by.

I watched an inlaw with a very painful disease drink himself out of pain. Family members stayed on him about drinking, so he quit and had his doctor give him meds. He naturally became addicted to these, and his life was worse than before. Then he ended up at a methadone clinic for pain and addiction. The methadone is more dangerous and addictive than the other meds he was on. He died of a methadone overdose in his mid 40's. Methadone is very easy to od on. If he had smoked pot, he would probably be here to see the two grandchildren he adored, and also play with the third beautiful one that was born after he died a senseless death, all because doctors want to prescribe posionous medications for pain.

 

I stopped reading your post when you threw out the stupid comment about being a crybaby. You admit your experience with the subject is someone with a bad tooth. So why don't you just leave it there? You're wrong one several accounts so either show some links to back up your statements or leave it alone. Like I said before I'd rather be next to him in a truck than you. Sorry. End Trans.

 

Stranger,

So you're the one ...........................

I heard there was one person that hadn't smoked it !!
Now we know !!!

 

nope, there are 2 of us out here who have never smoked it

 

Do italians count ??