TMC Transportation, Inc. - Des Moines, Ia.

Buzzdog, my husband's daily gross average on his last snapshot was $741.06. Multiply that by 5 days (using 5 days because he's either home on the weekend or has a short trip over the weekend) and it's $3705.30. That is his weekly gross revenue average. Multiply that by 27% (his % for that month) and it's $1000.43. That is before taxes, and also before tarp pay, bounce pay, and anything extra is added to it.His weekly paycheck averages $700-$900. Twice in 3 months he's had very small paychecks, around $400.The numbers you quoted, those numbers are the average daily revenue. $3586.92 is very high, it's either a misprint or that man got some very good hauls. The same man was #1 the month before with only $1359.12. A large difference between the two months, and that's not the norm. As you can see from the numbers though, my husband isn't outperforming 99% of the drivers at TMC, but he still makes a good paycheck.And freight is just starting to pick up at TMC, it's slower in the winter months. He should make more as things pick up.I don't think I'm doing any disservice to a new driver by showing them the possibilities. At TMC any driver can raise his percantage pay if he tries, until he caps out of course. Maybe they won't reach 27% their first year, or maybe they'll make more. A lot of it is up to the driver. The possibility is there for any driver who works hard and wants to increase his percentage.I'm not discrediting the numbers you posted, I'm only showing you what my husband's numbers are so you can see for yourself. He asked me to share them so I have.

 

Driver'sWife,

You are misinformed on how the snapshot is determined. The snapshot average is 23% of the average revenue that the truck has generated. It is not the daily average revenue. It is 23% of the weekly average. So using the snapshot number you gave, that would show that his average weekly revenue is $3222. 27% of that would be $869.94. You would then add on any accessory pay, expense reimbursements, and bounce pay. Then he may occasionally gross over $1000 a week. I am sure one of the office employees would verify this is correct based on the way that AHI calculates revenue towards snapshot certification.

Good luck to you and your husband, I wish you both the best.

I am officially no longer employed with AHI/TMC, the truck was turned in tonight and I am sitting at the house.

 

Bingo! Different strokes for different folks. TMC just wasn't my cup of tea compared to their reputation. It's a good thing that your husband is enjoying working for them. He'd enjoy working more for a union company and you would too - way more money to be made there. A lot of TMC drivers know that they could make more money elsewhere, but their too comfortable driving those black & chrome trucks and scared to make a change in their lifestyle. That's fine with me - more money for me and less competition. Your husband has more tolerance than I do, which is a good thing for TMC. Best of luck to you both!

 

23% is starting pay for new drivers with no experience. My husband started at 27% because he has several years experience.
Direct quote from Black & Chrome: THE NUMBER REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE REVENUE EACH DRIVER'S TRUCK MADE PER DAY FOR THE CORRESPONDING MONTH
My husband's daily average according to his snapshot was $741.06.
Multiply by 5 (driving 5 days a week) equals $3705.30.
Multiply by 27% (his % for that month) and it's $1000.43 a week.
That is before tarp pay, bounce pay, and anything else added in.
That is also the amount before taxes and any other deductions.
Example from Black & Chrome, Best of the Best:
Top driver for Dec 2006, daily revenue for the truck: $1359.12
Multiply by 5 (drives 5 days a week) $6795.60.
Multiply by 27% (I just picked a %, have no idea what he makes) equals: $1834.81 per week.
That is again before taxes/deductions come out and before tarp pay, bounce, etc. is added in.
The snapshot taken monthly determines the % individual drivers make. It goes up/down monthly according to a list of variables. The monthly snapshot that I receive with his pay stub list the variables, his points, and what his % for the month is.

 

drivers wife,

I explained how the snapshot is calculated towards a drivers certification. I also explained what the numbers are in the Best of the Best. I would really like one of the official TMC office personel to verify it. You are wrong on the daily average theory. The revenue figured used to determine the snapshot is 23% of the weekly average revenue the truck generated. It is all part of the three card monte trucker math game that TMC plays. And as far as the snapshot goes, that is comical also because according to my snapshot I only had 90 points but my fleet manager changed the numbers so I would have 180 points and be paid the higher % because I was staying out and was willing to run hard. He tried to do everything he could to help the situation, but he had no power over TMC taking their cut or hauling cheap freight.

As far as my other claims as to what the accessory fees are, the fact that TMC bills based on Rand McNally Practical miles then tells the driver short HHG miles. I can back them up to anyone if you want. Just send me a PM with your email address. There is already 1 person on this thread that can verify what I say. I guess I will have to scan a copy of the certification forumla also to show that you are not factual about that as well.

As I have said before, I wish you and your husband the best of luck.


UPDATE:

Copied and pasted directly from the certification study guide for the Road Scholar program


As with most performance based pay systems there are several key measurements. In TMC's certification, the key measurements are revenue, miles per gallon and out-of-route. The revenue calculation is based on the productivity of the truck. Specifically, the driver's pay is based upon the revenue generated by his/her truck. So for each pay period, which is Saturday through Friday, the driver is paid a percentage of revenue generated by the truck. The certification revenue number is the revenue to the truck multiplied by 23 percent. Why 23 percent? Because when certification was designed all drivers were paid 23 percent of the revenue.



That says nothing about "daily" average. So you can see, by taking the numbers from the best of the best, or your snapshot, you simply divide by 23% ( .23 for those that slept during math ). Ok that throws out all of your misinformation.

You said that his snapshot revenue is $741.06
That would show the average WEEKLY revenue generated to the truck is $3222 ( $741.06 / .23 )
You said he is paid 27%, so his average gross pay based on revenue is $869.94
If he did 5 tarp loads for the week that would be another $50.
Bounce pay would be very limited, only paid if it is over 150 miles (HHG Short Miles) at $0.20/mile.

Based on the numbers you have provided, I find it IMPOSSIBLE that he has averaged over $1000 a week GROSS.
After all with holdings that you claim he has, I would guess that he is lucky to see $600 a week deposited in the bank account.


I realize this is boardering on a flame but I feel I should give you some advice that was given to me by my grand father.

It is better to remain silent and leave the impression of igorance then it is to speak and remove all doubt.


I have only posted facts. I am willing to go so far as to provide the documents to back them up. You have posted misinformation that can only be to the benefit of TMC. I am glad to see that I am not the only one that is suspicious of your motivation.

Good luck to you and your husband.

 

Yes, I'm informed about my husband's job and the company he works for. I tried to be just as informed with every company he's driven for and when he was in the U.S. Army. I've always taken an active interest in what my husband does.

Neither of us is trying to be a spokesperson for the company. I just thought with so many people slamming a company maybe someone should step in with something good to say. I see that doesn't work, no one wants good news, just the bad.

Again, I thought it would be nice if someone said something good about the company. I've persisted because I've been told that my husband's good experience is a lie. Oh well, I won't post about TMC again here.

He probably won't work for TMC in a year. He has one complaint about them and that is he wants to drive long haul and they don't have a lot of that. We're looking into going O/O in the near future.


Direct quote from Black & Chrome: THE NUMBER REPRESENTS THE AVERAGE REVENUE EACH DRIVER'S TRUCK MADE PER DAY FOR THE CORRESPONDING MONTH
That's the info I have. I called and asked the company and was told 23% is not used for every driver. My husband's number is 27% so that is what is used for him personally. And the number on the Best of the Best is average revenue PER DAY. It says it in big letters at the top of Best of the Best. When I called I was told it was per day.
I don't care if anyone believes me. I'm tired of slamming my head against a wall. Believe whatever you'd like, you will anyway. I know what my husband gets paid, how the number is figured, and if I don't know, I ask. Guess that's wrong too...why would a wife give a #### about her husband's job or paycheck right?

 

Thank goodness!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Any company you go to work for will have bad things and good things. I should say all.

I am going with TMC even after reading all the post with about them.
Ok so some trainers cheat of logs does that mean I will.... no You must learn from other people and apply what you have seen to what should not be done. As for the trainers: ok some are bad in all companies if you want to make a change report them as alot have people have done, but I will never understand why one person would quit after a bad run. LOL Trucking is good money and you will have bad days and good ones.

I guess I just think different about thinks since I have been $%#& on all possible ways in the military and still came out smelling like a rose.

Sometimes you have to want it and it will not be given to ya.

frag me if ya want I really do not care.

 

Razriel,


Good luck to you. Expect to be pulled in the scales and get at least a level 2. I was going over Tapahatche (sp) CA heading east and got pulled in. Was told by the inspector the reason I was getting the level 2 was because of the companies SafeStat score. I was not worred about my logs. But I was careful to make sure he avoided taking a real close look at the trailer. It had about 5 stake pockets that had broken welds. I had notified road repair about it when I got the trailer, but they said to wait until I got it through a terminal. The last thing I wanted was to get the trailer red tagged sitting in the middle of no where California.

If you are honestly wanting to make the most money you can, then TMC is not the company to go with. I think you are chosing them because they have big pretty trucks. Honestly, find a company that pays a good per mile rate based on practical miles.