Mr. Village Idiot: I think we all here understand that when we say, "must be logged" we mean it counts against your 70 in one way or another and when we say, Didn't log it" means we placed ourselves off duty. You've been in this for 23 years...I would hope you know Trucker Shorthand by now...
And for those who are new, Mr. Village Idiot is absolutely right on all counts.
Logging bobtail
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by lild1524, May 21, 2010.
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Maybe you refer to "must be" as counting against your 70. But I equate it to breathing.
Short hand = 11/14 compression to me
Something I will no longer be able to do within the next 2-3 weeks. As I will be doing the EOBR test for our company...along with 19 other volunteers/fools LMAO -
So, in Canada you're a prisoner in your personal property if It happens to be a semi. Why am I not surprised?
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I just log it all. heading home? I log it. Id rather just have something up to date to show smokey, than have to explain "convince" him I am heading home or so on.
Plus my logs seem to miraculously change when it is sitting in the truck in the drive... HA must have mice or something... -
Well just to stir this up a little,here is another idea: Town "A" go off duty.
Town "B" back on duty....Hello officer,yes my log is correct. I went off duty at town "a" someone at work moved my truck to town "b" & wife drove me here.
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I have seen this to but when I look in the handbook I cant find it anywhere
What part & section does it talk about this?
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Personal Use of a Commercial Motor Vehicle
[FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times][FONT=LCFFL O+ Times,Times]It is possible that occasionally you may not use a truck in commerce at all. You may be moving your personal belongings to a new house or, as a hobby you may be taking your horses to a horse show. As long as the activity is not in support of a business, you are not operating in commerce.
If you are not operating your truck in commerce, you are not subject to the hours-of-service regulations.
You have to be a O/O under your own numbers, maybe a company lease operator or company driver could do it with a letter or something. I'm not in the truck right now so I'm not sure where it is in the handbook. As long as you are not using the truck to make money you can do what you want with it for how ever long you want, drive 20 straight hours if you want and DOT can't say a thing just like if your in a pick up.
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I am a o/o running under my own numbers. I am going to print that out & carry it with me.
If someone could find it in the handbook that would be great so I can use that as a reference also -
It doesn't matter if you are running under your own numbers or not. Here is the interpretation by the DOT.
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=Y
Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a CMV for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?
Guidance: When a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver's home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver's terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver's en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver's home, from the driver's home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier's CMV for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.
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I never have had a problem, I just have my log on the current day as off duty and in the remarks I put POV vacation.
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