Honest logs

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by john10204, Oct 21, 2010.

  1. doublew

    doublew Light Load Member

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    i would be broke and workin at wal-mart if i logged by the book with the new log book rules it sucks to have to be that way but as an owner op you do what you have to do..but safe always safe
     
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  3. djtrype

    djtrype Heavy Load Member

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    You've got a lot to learn. Don't be so judgmental before you actually experience it. I'm purely going by your status as a driver, which you've listed as "student". If you run 100% legal and make a fine living doing so, more power to you, but real world situations will always override practical use. That traffic jam in Downtown Chicago that took you 3 hours to get through...will you be logging it as such or will you save those 3 hours to run elsewhere? It's your paycheck after all. The company will make its money regardless of whether you have the hours to run your next load or not. I've been repowered once in my 3 years for being out of hours, meanwhile I've repowered countless guys who ran out of hours. It's ultimately your call, but I'm spending way too much time out here as it is to lose any pay.

    As for Qualcomm, it can be manipulated like anything else. Just like everything, it's all about moderation.
     
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  4. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

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    as long as my fuel stops match I am good to roll....
    lol talk about us old timers...
    Remember the days of loading in Los Angelos on Friday and delivering Monday in Atlanta....I cant remember how many times i did I-10 across Texas only stopping for fuel and coffee...oh btw that was a solo run not a team load either...then load tues morn in Atl and deliver back in LA that friday...was not an uncommon thing...thats when we would use 2 or three comic books....for you newbies that would be LOG books..lol
     
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  5. C3dreamin'

    C3dreamin' Bobtail Member

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    The thing about cheating on your logs and thinking you won't get caught is, what happens when you do? And I don't mean a simple ticket or fine. What happens if you get in a wreck and someone gets killed. Now, even if the wreck was not your fault, they are going to put you under the microscope. They are going to examine your logs and all of a sudden your credibility has gone right out the window. Is it worth the risk? Maybe and maybe not. It's really up to the individual if they want to take the chance.
    I don't plan on cheating on my logs ever. That being said, I never planned on "stealing" music, but you can bet your butt I have downloaded my share of songs. It never seems like a big deal until the feds are knocking on your door. Be safe out there.
     
  6. walstib

    walstib Darkstar

    It is what it is...You can rationalize it all you want, there is a right and wrong way to do things, not having experience doesn't change that...You always have the power to say no and not be weak and let someone make you do something you KNOW is wrong, that too won't change no matter how you try to justify it...3hrs, big deal, even you lost 60 miles of driving per hour at .40cpm it's a whopping $72 you lost, if that's worth it to you, that's sad and definitely not worth it...
     
  7. LandShark

    LandShark Road Train Member

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    Walstib.
    Not disputing that at all...and its a very smart way of thinking...it just so happens if you do operate that way you should bring many and I mean many dvd's books. and other items to fill in all the sitting time your going to be doing in the truckstop parking lot...and after you stand your ground and turn down enough loads you'll be let go for the driver who will run it and then be DAC'd as someone who refuses to run...I do wish you the best and I really hope it works out for you....
     
  8. Allow Me.

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    Well, I can tell you that I fudged my logs as needed. And I was very careful if I did. In this biz, you need every advantage you can get. But, I'm here to tell you straight up,(newbies) if you think you can run legal and log legal, you'll soon find out it ain't so. You don't have to be blatant if you cheat, but you need to KNOW how to make "adjustments" in your favor.
     
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  9. walstib

    walstib Darkstar

    So you're saying EVERYONE is doing it?...
     
  10. djtrype

    djtrype Heavy Load Member

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    You're just looking at the small picture. That traffic jam doesn't just happen once or twice, but dozens even hundreds of times. Maybe I'm too frugal, but I'm not going to just give my money away because I was inconvienced in one way or another. And anyways, I make sure to catch up with my log before I get too far behind so I'm not running illegal the entire time.
     
  11. LostSoulCA

    LostSoulCA Medium Load Member

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    I log legal but not the way it actually happened. You will learn your tethers like fuel stops and weigh stations. Then you will learn how to write fiction. Unless you have a qualcomm. I had a qualcomm while I was with Werner. After two months of training (200 hours of driving) I left them. I bought my own truck and run 48 with no qualcomm. I seldom run more than 11 but my farthest day was 818 miles. It wasn't logged that way. I also won't allow prepass in my truck. Prepass records your location everytime you pass a weigh station whether it's open or closed.
     
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