Going down long steep "DOWNGRADE"

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by dano1971, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. dano1971

    dano1971 Light Load Member

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    We were goihg down at about 65-70 and no jake ,full load and the breaks wern't that good to begin with. After i got out i wanted to slap the sh-- out of him, he's been driving for about 46 years.:biggrin_25524:
     
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  3. dano1971

    dano1971 Light Load Member

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    This gut had 46 or so years driving/training, I think he forgot I DON"T I just graduated on friday .
     
  4. dano1971

    dano1971 Light Load Member

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    See thats what he is a "SUPER TRUCKER" . When I got out and he got in he was doing them hills a 80to 85 going down, i was doing 65 to 70 fully loaded 1st time out on the road 42000 lbs.
     
  5. Cropduster

    Cropduster Light Load Member

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    Always better safe than Sorry......Downshift and go a little slower...[​IMG]
     
  6. jl28

    jl28 Bobtail Member

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    I've been down this hill .Fun.
     
  7. celticwolf

    celticwolf Road Train Member

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    This is the exact procedure the school I am in taught. From what I heard I get to practice that procedure Monday. :biggrin_2556:
     
  8. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Good Post !!!!












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  9. Xcis

    Xcis Medium Load Member

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    First, you determine YOUR safe speed. The highest possible speed I would suggest is the posted truck speed limit. You could decide on a lower speed.

    Second, you determine the correct gear for your safe speed.
    As a general guideline on a ten speed transmission, if your safe speed ends in a 5, like 25 mph, add the two digits together to determine the HIGHEST gear you should use. At 25 mph, 2 + 5 equals 7th gear which is the absolute highest gear you should consider using. 6th may be a better choice.

    .NOTE: While you are descending the grade never attempt to downshift. You will be increasing speed and rpm's and will be unable to get into any gear thus descending in neutral.

    Snub braking is applying your brakes hard enough to feel a distinct slowing of the vehicle. You want to reduce your speed 5 mph in about 3 seconds. It is like you see a traffic light up ahead change. You brake harder than light steady pressure but not as hard as a panic stop. This is not pumping the brakes. When you reach your safe speed you apply the brakes and release the brakes when you are 5 mph under your safe speed.

    Example: the posted truck speed limit is 25 mph. At 25 mph you apply your brakes firmly until speed is reduced to 20mph. Release your brakes. When your speed builds to 25mph repeat.

    The newest version of Snub braking, which is not in the CDL manual, is start by applying your brakes when you reach 1800 to 2000 rpm. Release the brakes when you reach 1200 to 1500 rpm. Repeat as necessary.

    There are two emergency braking techniques.
    .Stab braking is applying the brakes and locking them up. Release the brakes for 2seconds to allow the wheels to turn and repeat.
    .Controlled braking is applying the brakes hard up to but not locking the brakes.
    .With either of these emergency braking techniques, you can make small steering corrections while on the brakes. To execute large steering corrections, you must release the brakes then make the large steering correction and get back on the brakes.

    I have found that if you balance the load between the trailer tandems and the drive tandems, you do not pick up speed quite as fast. This allows the brakes to cool for a longer period between braking applications.

    The CDL written test will have a question on descending steep grades. The old method of light steady pressure is a wrong answer on the test. Use Snub braking or the definition of snub braking. Remember slow down 5 mph from your safe speed in about 3 seconds of firm braking.
     
  10. walstib

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    >>>>.NOTE: While you are descending the grade never attempt to downshift. You will be increasing speed and rpm's and will be unable to get into any gear thus descending in neutral

    Why can't you hit the brakes before shifting?...We braked to 900rpms and doubled down pretty easily......
     
  11. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Everything works perfectly in school !!!!!!

    Try remembering some of that crap, when your seat cushion has been sucked up inside your cheeks..............
     
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