Is using the Spot Market Ideal For Entry Into The Trucking Business

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by A.S.T.G., Nov 21, 2010.

  1. A.S.T.G.

    A.S.T.G. Bobtail Member

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    Good day, Let me begin by expressing many thanks to all. It's great that you guys are willing to answer questions and give advice to us new guys.


    My mother just got a divorce and is now the owner of a 99 FreightLiner that up to four months ago was operational as a lease for Apex I believe. The only reason it's sitting is because her ex did't pay the insurance on it or something to that extent. The truck has always been under her name and the USDOT number is as well.

    She has asked me to look into getting the truck operational and start a Trucking business. I have been doing my research and considering entering the biz through the Spot Market....

    I'm beginning to work on my CPM and have a Fixed Cost of .786 which includes a salary of 52,000.00

    Is that high for the Fixed cost aspect of calculating the CPM??

    It seems that when a do the estimated numbers for the Variable based on 100.000 miles my total CPM comes out to 2.08 per mile. Seems to be high for the spot market as the average rate index for a reefer has it around 1.50 base on Trancore data.

    Also I'm not sure is that rate includes a Fuel surcharge. Non the less its not enough to support my CPM... Am I doing something wrong? I used the excel sheet that OOIDA has on there website and is based on 100,000 miles annually. I'm not sure what the trucks MPG is but I'm using worst case # 4MPG.....


    What is the most common way of calculating your cost per mile?-- Annually then broken down quarterly?

    If I put a bid in is it ok to add the Variable cost for that run to my fixed cost?

    I know I'm new but please no discouraging comments-----


    thanks
     
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  3. Bigray

    Bigray Road Train Member

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    please clarify is your cpm .786 or 2.08?
     
  4. A.S.T.G.

    A.S.T.G. Bobtail Member

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    Fixed CPM is .786 if I and the V it's 2.08
     
  5. DL550CAT

    DL550CAT Road Train Member

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    Those numbers sound very high to me! I run local which means my costs per mile are alot higher than most and they aint that high.
     
  6. Krooser

    Krooser Road Train Member

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    When you refer to 'spot market' are you talking about bidding on freight? that term is not used in this industry afaik...
     
  7. CummingsHauling&Rigging

    CummingsHauling&Rigging Light Load Member

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    The only spot market I know of is the commodities market, I don't see how you would use that to find customers

    And I don't know what you are hauling, what kind of trailer, who's insurance or operating authority.

    Personally being that you are running a 1999 freightliner, you are going to find those spreadsheet predictions totally worthless.

    I'm not saying the truck is or isn't in good shape but it throws a wild card into your calculations.

    When you are figuring statistics, the numbers don't come out too well without a large enough sample, over a long enough time

    BTW this guy makes a good point in another post


     
  8. A.S.T.G.

    A.S.T.G. Bobtail Member

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    Thanks guys----- The deal comes down to being that I don't and can't get a CDL. My DL has been revoke till 2015. I do plan on riding shot gun on all trips. As far as the truck... From what I'm gathering its not the best. its a FL120... Please express your opinions on the truck.

    As far as what I mean by spot market. Its the segment of the market that does not have contract terms-- Running off load boards--
     
  9. CummingsHauling&Rigging

    CummingsHauling&Rigging Light Load Member

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    Forget running off load boards, you won't make enough money to even pay your driver let alone have anything left for yourself.

    Nothing wrong with a FL120, if it has the right specs and it is in good condition. Although, it isn't really a truck that is going to attract drivers.
     
  10. A.S.T.G.

    A.S.T.G. Bobtail Member

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    Yeah it's kind of a plain truck---- Any advice on how I should go about it..
    I've been chatting with some dispatchers and willing to hire the truck for some runs.
     
  11. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    The only way to make money under those terms and conditions, is to sell the truck now, and pocket the money. Otherwise, you are throwing good money after bad.
     
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