haz-mat without placards and documents

How far is the yard from the border? Sounds like the Mexicans figured it was the U. S.'s problem to placard it.

 

Come on guy. You rejected it, they fixed the problem. Get over it. You're probably sue happy, too. If people would get over things and move on without making a federal case out of everything (literally, in this case), we'd all be alot better off.

 

but this is a homeland security issue don't you see?!1!!1!

edit: dangit! filtered out my all-caps, I thought it was appropriate here too...

 

Firstly, Does your carrier have haz-mat transport authority? If not, forget fines, they'll throw you(the driver) straight in jail in MN... and it's different in every state.

Hell, in California it would probably be a capital offence... (gas chamber?)

 

Nothing surprises me anymore. I get loads that originate in the US this way. I'm not sure, I have a few friends that are border patrol I can ask, but I don't think they are certified inspectors. They probably do not have a clue about those regulations. I know that sounds crazy.

 

It's a good thing he did reject and report it. How many people could have been hurt or even killed if someone were to throw down a cigarette and that load contained gas that might have been leaking and wouldn't have known it because it wasn't placarded. This is HazMat 101 here. Grimesjm1, I hope you don't have a hazmat endoursment if you can't be responsible enough to do thing's the way they should be done for safety's sake. People who do such thing's as ignoring proper proceedures in the containment and transport of hazardous materials makes me feel utterly safe (insert pun), especially parked on the same lot as I am much less going down the road.

 

I do, actually. Used to haul hazardous mat's regularly, money wasn't good enough. People like you who can't comprehend what they read pose a much bigger threat then I do, believe me. What did I type that made you believe I condoned transporting hazardous materials properly? What did I type that even implied I wouldn't report it to my employer? The comment that irritated me was the poster stating he needed to report it to the federal and state authorities.

In the situation he described, I definetly would have reported it to my employer. That would have been the end of it. People crying about risking their cdl's accidently by someone else not reporting it is why it is a cdl violation. How about take some responsibility for yourself? If you fail to report it and drop the trailer, when I pick up the trailer, I would have caught the problem and wouldn't have hauled until it was corrected. If the next guy is too stupid to do the same, not my problem.
Goes back to when we were little kids. Mind your own business, quit worring about what everyone else is doing.

This is like the crackheads on here whining about their boss making them run illegally, risking their license. It's your license, if you don't wanna lose it, follow the rules. Who cares if your employer does or not? If you do, you keep your license. Simple as that.

On the business side of it, that's why driving jobs are all ####, for the most part. Everyone wants to get everyone else in trouble. A mistake was made on the hazmat load. You wanna get the police involved. So why would I put you in my truck knowing you have that mentality? I actually would like to put someone in my truck but most people have your attitude and I don't wanna deal with the crying, so I'll keep driving it myself for now.

 

Like I pointed out above. A carrier has NEVER put my career at risk. Do your job right and you don't have to worry about it.

"What about the next guy who may not know to question it, you figure its ok he get slammed for it?" Are you serious?????? Absolutely!!!! If he doesn't know better, he shouldnt be hauling it in the first place!! I've never accidently taken a load that was illegal! Pretrip your #### equipment!!

 

Yep! Absolutely! It's entirely the driver's responsibility. They can't try to point the finger at the carrier/their company. Read the first page of the hazmat compliance book about driver responsibilities:

"Be able to recognize discrepancies in documents, packaging, labeling, and compatibility."

"Refuse to accept hazardous material freight ... if the shipping papers are improperly prepared..."

"Be sure any required placards are in place before starting."

You did the right thing. Not some huge scandal to get all twitterpated about. You resolved the problem and got the job done. If it had been someone else that had not taken the same care that you did, and gotten nailed for it down the road, he has no one to blame but himself for failing to meet his responsibilities.