cummins isx 500 backfire normal ???

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  1. dmg1029

    dmg1029 Light Load Member

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    I have a 2008 pete with 18 speed, 3:55 ratio and pull flatbed with about 40K on the deck normally. When pulling loaded with RPM below 1500, engine will 'backfire' or 'pop' frequently. I've had it to a cummins dealer a few times and was told that was 'normal'. I've had the truck for about 6 months and replaced the EGR valve, dozer injector and turbo actuator. The 'backfiring' is getting progressively worse. I now shift at 1500 RPM.. Fuel milage is not that good at all (4.5-5.0).

    Anyone have any ideas?
    Anyong have any similar issues? (backfiring/popping??)

    thanks much.
     
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  3. Bent Wrench

    Bent Wrench Medium Load Member

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    Backfiring on a diesel????
    from the exhaust, or intake?
    DPF system? (on an 08?)
    Sticking valve or broken spring?

    So you are keeping it above 1500 to prevent popping?
    It it one pop or a regular event like one cylinder misbehaving?
     
  4. dmg1029

    dmg1029 Light Load Member

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    BR,
    Thanks for the reply..\

    Yes, it's a DPF engine.
    Backfiring/popping is intermittant usually when pulling below 1400 or so. Can't tell if from intake or exhaust, or even turbo. Was told by Cummins that this is normal due to the VGT (varialble geometry turbo) acting quicky with no waste gate.. The backfire/pop sound is followed by hesitation and will happen a several times unless I downshift and bring the RPM's back up about 1500 or so. The trucks been on a dyno and does fine with good power and boost.
     
  5. melpromud

    melpromud Medium Load Member

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    Is it more of a fast "WOOSH" sound? Mine dose this every so often. Was told it has something to do with the EGR. Mine was replaced once and it stopped for some time but its starting to do it some again. The truck dose hesitate when it happens. It feel like it loses turbo boost for a split second. Mine is an 07 without the DPF.
     
  6. Skunk_Truck_2590

    Skunk_Truck_2590 Road Train Member

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    I've had the problem in a Detroit 60 which seemed like back firing but was actually fuel some how being sucked in and combusting in the turbo itself. Odd if you ask me. Didn't keep the truck long after it started doing it so I don't know the out come of it. It had a sudden loss of power and acted like kinda like shifting with the jake on but that wasn't what was going on.
     
  7. mrdevildog

    mrdevildog Light Load Member

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    has the check engine light been coming on???
     
  8. Maxidyne

    Maxidyne Bobtail Member

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    I have a 2010 ISX 450 and if you are pulling down low you better be easy letting up on the throttle or it will do it. If it's doing a regen going down the road it's worse. Be very gentle leaving up on the throttle and it won't do it. That's been my experience.
     
  9. AgLaw

    AgLaw Light Load Member

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    Are you referring to the fueling hesitation and turbocharger "gurgle" at around 1200 rpm during a regen? If so, it's normal. However, there is a new calibration out (I believe it's Sept. or Oct. '10) that is supposed to address the issue and minimize the effect. I've had two of mine updated to the new calibration, but have yet to experience a regen to see if there's a difference.
     
  10. power freak

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    I have heard similar noises coming from my cummins engines both dpf and just egr. I believe that it is the turbo going into a stall wich is a result from boost pressure being higher than drive pressure and momentarily spinning the turbo backwards. Just my thoughts.
     
  11. 07 pete

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    my 07 pete was doing the same thing for 2 years and our monkey wrench couldn't figure it out until we had a t 800 kw apparently doing the same thing so then our parts changer dove right in and must have found the problem because mysteriously my pete hasn't backfired since. And in case you were wondering yes our parts changer is a k w man. and he still hasn't told me what the problem was for sure but I think it was something to do with a tube or line from the turbo to a sensor somewhere. I will try to do some more investigating to get you the answer to your question
     
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