Why Not Strike?

Don't have to look it up, nor will I - it's nonsense.

So no one needs to "be careful" of calling you on it.

You're the one spreading illegitimate hyperbole, and it's beyond me why a Canadian "driver" (as you entered in your profile) - would care so much about an American truckers strike, that they would spread this propaganda.

Yet in the next thread state "we need to take respect back" ... what are you trying to accomplish?

Don't matter either way, we'll see how many drivers are "scared" to shut down when EOBR's or mandatory governors are required in all trucks - nobody's rhetoric will matter then.

 

Captain canuck........The biggest issue with the RICO law is it is very broad and vague.

I don't know if striking to "jack up rates(money)" would be the only factor in being able to charge owner operators with collusion or extortion.
The main idea I had was not to see drivers charged in the first place because that still costs money regardless of the outcome. I strongly believe we can go on a general strike, we just need to make sure everyone is protected/informed so that participation is high and it actually happens.

If unions(carpenters,drywallers,electricians,etc) all decided together that they would shut down to put rates up across the board the unions could be charged with collusion and extortion and if someone is charged/accused of extortion that falls within RICOs parameters for prosecution.

Here is an example of the law gone askew: Simply replace the "anti abortionists" with
"Truck drivers" and we can see a little of the picture that could be applied toward truckers going on strike.

http://www.thirdamendment.com/rico.html


Zen Trucking..........I never said you had to be "Carefull" of anything that was you,not me. I never said anyone was "scared" to shut down,again that was you,not me.
It is beyond you "Why a Canadian would be interested in an American truckers strike?" This whole thing is beyond you. America is the number one trading partner for Ontario. America is the economic engine of North America. Are you still with me?

If The conditions/pay improve for drivers in America which is the biggest economy in the world then the conditions improve in a smaller market such as Ontario that supplies the big economy. You get more money,I get more money. More money equals more respect. That is what I meant when I said "Take back respect". They just aren't going to roll over and give you what you want,you're going to have to take it from them.

A strike in America shuts down Canada and Mexico,a strike in Canada just shuts down Canada. Haven't lost you yet have I?
If your going to attack something,attack the point where you will see the biggest impact and get the most attention.

 

I guess you missed the part of this thread where some guy named Captain Canuck chimed in? I can't speak for my fellow Canucklehead, but I'm very interested in what is going on in the US trucking industry because whatever happens in the US winds up happening to us up here as well. Not to mention the fact that when we run in the States, we are subject to the same Draconian laws and regulations that you are. Not that ours are much better, but at least we can drive 13 hours up here, work 14, have a 16 hour window to do it in, and split sleeper berth as many times as we want.

 

Wasn't meant as any slight against Canuks in general, but why would one disseminate misinformation about American law - then tell me to "be careful" when I call BS?

Especially one who claims to be a driver - I would expect that from a trucking company owner or management.

I'm pro-strike btw, and have no use for Draconian laws either.

 

Here's your American law.

http://www.justice.gov/atr/public/guidelines/211578.htm

"then tell me to "be careful" when I call BS?"

This statement is BS that you made up. Find me the quote where I said this. You can't because you took two different quotes and blended then into what you wanted them to read.

You are the exact problem that permeates this industry. You will argue semantics with someone who agrees with you( I say strike as well) and wants to protect you from possible hardship.
You would rather argue and tell me I am wrong. I have shown you the law that you told me I didn't know anything about. You're typical of the driver that will argue with zero proof of the argument in which they hold,then turn tail and twist words to fit the view you want to percieve.

You are the problem.

 

So then we can expect subpoenas against every company reducing fleet size and lowering capacity in an effort to increase their own margins, and profits? ... right ...

Then the pigs flew ...

 

I don't think you fully understand collusion but that's OK, I don't care anymore.......You and I agree on the main principal that Unions are good and a strike wouldn't be all that bad either.

So In the end,we are basically the same except for a few minor differences. I can work/live with that.