So you want to "own " your own company

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by NightWind, Nov 16, 2006.

  1. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    I don't know who you spoke with but at least some of the information is not correct. IRP fees have nothing to do with the age of your truck. Whether your truck is new or 20 years old, the IRP fees are the same. IRP calculates your fees based upon the amount of miles that you run in each state. Initially you will need to use estimated miles which are based on an average of carriers who register in your state. Actual miles will be used in subsequent years. The actual miles will be put in as a percentage of what each state charges for their state. Once those figures are put in the fee for your IRP comes out. The cost will usually vary from one year to another. The 2011 UCR fees are $76 for 1-2 trucks. You don't need to go through any state to apply and pay your UCR fees. You can do it online directly through the UCR. www.ucr.in.gov is the website to register and pay your ucr fees. You need authority before you can register.

    Before you will be allowed to get your base plates you will need a copy of your authority, dot number and insurance. If you lease to another carrier and want to get your own plates you will usually need a copy of the lease and there should be a form that your carrier will need to fill out and sign. If you lease to another carrier then you will need their MC, dot number and insurance. In my state they have a booklet that explains everything that is needed to register and get your truck legal in the state. I would think that something similar is available in your state.
     
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  3. stiffride

    stiffride Light Load Member

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    Ok I will tell you that you are right on most of that, but Florida is not a UCR state therefore the cost is a little higher for the UCR. I called Indiana to ask the IRP there what the cost was and they told me $185 for one truck. So I have heard all this from the horses mouth so to speak. I don't know man I have heard so many different things from the IRP offices and the Tax Collectors office about this that I can't make heads or tails of any of it. I called the IRP to ask what exactly I needed to bring for my plates they told me, " DOT number, Authority for leasing entity, and proof that the organization is based in Florida, i.e. phone bill, light bill, tax bill." I am not making this up! The law changed earlier this year down here for the IRP. You are right about the fees for plates varying from year to year based on what the states you run in are charging at that time. I am going to have to join the OOIDA so I can have somebody sit down and explain all this stuff to me. I am getting confused and soon probably will make a mistake. I want to lease to a company that offers all the goods, but I have a couple tickets that I think will keep me from being able to lease on. So I have to go with a lessor company that requires me to carry most of my own stuff. Pain in the #$% if you ask me but whatever I'm not going to bi&^h about it this is my life and I will make the best of it either way...
     
  4. MeatHead

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    That $185 is a pro rated figure for the rest of the year. It is $550 for the whole year. That other figure you got, $1,500 to $2,000 is for your plates.

    As far as getting all your own stuff you should see if you can even get insurance first. If not then it's over.
     
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  5. stiffride

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    Yeah the insurance isn't a problem and I finally got my full DAC and Driving Record. It wasn't as bad as I thought all the carriers that I had worked for in the past but 1 had a positive reclaim. So I should be fine, and I was able to get the major ticket I had in NC dropped so I should be good. I have spoke with a couple of places about insurance and they looked at my driving record and said I was insurable. Now I just have to get over the hurdle of my truck year and I'll be back to work in no time. Actually the 185 as far as I was told was the entire price that had to be paid and that there was no prorate in the UCR. But I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time especially if you ask my wife... lol thanks for all the help guys monday starts the big push for work I will keep you up to date on how it went for me...
     
  6. G/MAN

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    If you base in Florida you cannot get your UCR through Indiana, per the UCR website. You can find everything that you need to know by going to their website which I noted above. It lists the states in which you will need to register. Those are the states which are closest to you. Unless you go to the UCR website you have not gotten your information from the "horses mouth." I would have cut and pasted the information but my computer is acting up. The information is there for the reading.

    You will need to prove that you are either a resident of Florida or that your business is based or has an office in the state in order to get your base plates and permits through them. I think that ALL states now require that you provide proof of residency.
     
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  7. G/MAN

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    The UCR fee is not prorated. I believe you are thinking about the Heavy Highway Use Tax. It costs $550/year and is prorated from July. Unless there is an extra fee for going through a different state in which you are based or for using a permit service the actual cost is $76/year for those with 1 or 2 trucks. The UCR fee is based upon the number of trucks that you own or run under your authority. It is all on the UCR website. www.ucr.in.gov.
     
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  8. stiffride

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    Your right the UCR is NOT prorated I understand that, and you are right about the cost for not living in a member state. I called both IRP offices and asked them about the UCR. Florida IRP told me to use either Indiana or Georgia for the UCR, and I called both states and asked the cost they told me that it would be $185. Like I said that is what they told me. Actually there are only a handful or UCR states that will let nonmember states O/O buy into the UCR. It just so happens in my demographic it happens to be Indiana and Georgia. I wouldn't know unless I had called them to verify. Now you have to remember that I am new to the program with the IRP and the UCR so that price you stated is probably true for reups and such. Thanks though I am finding that the log book and FMCSA are changing the rules on a daily basis...LOL
     
  9. stiffride

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    Also the proof of residency for me is already taken care of through that new program, but they told me that if I was leasing to a company based in Florida I had to take in proof of their residency as well. Which I think the lady I talked to was HIGH on something, but that is what she said....
     
  10. G/MAN

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    If you get your own base plates then where the carrier is located should not matter. All you should need is a copy of the lease. If the carrier gets the base plates it will need to come from either where they are located or have an office.
     
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  11. stiffride

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    Thats what I thought too, but they have to have all the company info if they are a florida based company. I don't know why but it is what it is...
     
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