The Dreaded Electronic Logs

Well my company is fairly strict with their guidelines as far as peoples net is concerned. If I tell my dispatcher that I'm running shortofhrs he will not push more time on me. Then again my company is relatively small so it really only takes just one or maybe 2 peopleto keeptrack of thepeoples net at most.

 

First, jobs like yours are the exception to the rule. Congradulations on getting what sounds like a good job!
Second, all of us deserve to be paid for ALL the work we do!
We need to stop the insane mentality that the only way to make more money is to work harder, longer, or faster. WE NEED TO WORK SMARTER!!!

 

I have been on e logs with qualcomm for almost 3 months...i think its great, i have lost no miles what so ever. I hope i never have to go back to paper again. Like it or not its coming down the road in the future..

 

Its just a shame that drivers only get paid when the wheels are moving. When you clock in at mcdonalds, you can stand around with a broom stick all day, not even sweep anything up, for 8hrs, and get paid for the 8hrs.
The truck driver......drive for 11, work for 14, only to see a measley couple dollars.

But with technology in todays world, QC is gonna be here to stay. Look at the whole communication realm today. Your cell phones, computers and the internet, magicjack, vonage, communication technology is a fast growing part of our world today, like it or not! Better learn how to turn on that computer your kids/grandkids got ya for xmas this year!!

 

Go get a job at mcdog foods then. I read alot of post about truckers not making much and compare cpm to an hourly rate. Simply trucking is not for you. This job will require you to work hard and to step out of your comfortable box. A trucker is a special breed all by them selfs. Put up or shut up and keep pounding the pavement. Thats what truckers do!!

 

I get paid when the wheels are rolling and when I deliver........mileage
pay and load pay......mileage is paid from point of original load to job
and return to original point of load unless new load point is more mileage.

Detention pay after 2 hours.....till the load is delivered in full and
paperwork is signed.....detention doesn't stop at unload start time like
so many places want you to agree to.

Everybody is protected this way and everybody makes money.

 

I like the line I changed to red! You weren't here for the old 8/10 logs! I absolutely loved the 34 hour reset! You go home for 34 and you get a whole brand newset of 70 hours to work with.

Under the old rules you go home for a weekend or a few extra days and put 2 or more zeros in the log book and 7 days later those zeros are back haunting your arse! First, say you go home every weekend. Well you take 2 days off and put your zeros down and then you go to add hours back and those zeros from last week are staring you in the face so you don't get to add those hours back into the log book! The you get stuck some where and put another zero down and it happens again especially if you did a 10 hour drive, stop take those oh so stupid 8 off duty and jump back behind the wheel so you're now going for a max hours day of...sixteen (16) and when you do your log you subtract that 16 from what you have to say oh maybe 4 hours total and them you go to add those hours back from 7 days ago and CRAPOLA! It's a freaking ZERO! You NEED 8 to make the delivery! Well time to contact dispatch for either a repower or reschedule! OH! I forgot. Say you only worked one day for 3 hours and the day before you had a zero and today you did 14 but need more hours to add back and well a zero and a 3 don't make up to many hours to work with!

The 34 reset IS the best thing next to the 10 hours off duty which actually gives you time to do everything you need to do when off like EAT, SHOWER, WASH CLOTHES, RELAX over trying to cram all that crap into 8 hours! The reset gives you time to work!
Now I've listened to drivers on the CB, at the dinner counter and yards complaining that the 34 benefits the company only and screws the driver. I never found that to be true! Just because that old rule of 7 days ago have some kind of effect on you! ROFLMFAO!

I'm glad they are keeping the 34 but the new rule I've been reading about that they want to do is stupidly in motion! What idiot thought it up should have a super wedgie placed on him! Yes, things always look good on paper but this 12 midnight to 6am for 2 days thing had to be written by someone who really needs to go pee in a bottle! PURE IDOIODICY! You have to show 2 nights from 12-6?

STOP THE TRAIN!
WHY? And here is why they have a comments time to put in your input as a driver, which 98% of you will NOT do, but will bit@h about it!
If they want you to do 2 days/nights while doing a 34 why does it HAVE to show from 12 midnight to 6 am 2 times?

If this is going to mandated then why can a driver show his 10 off duty hours from 0601 (6am) till 1601 (4pm) and then go on duty? Will they come up with an add-on that you MUST take part of your off duty time during the 12-6 time period?

And we wonder why the gooberment has so many problems! MORONS who write this kind of crap into law!

The 34 will have one of those 12-6 time periods in it no matter what but to make two of them means that someone is going to have to lose some hours and guess who?
Driver
Company
America!

Not to mention the added traffic to American roads due to all the trucks heading out because some moron says you HAVE to show that 6 am start time (actually not HAVE to but you know drivers if thats when we can do it we'll do it!) and you know every driver out there, to maximize his hours will pre plan to be rolling at 6 AM!

This rule will make the HOS a complete waste of time! Not to mention a waste of the paper it will be written on and of taxpayer money keeping idiots on the payroll not to mention a reason to outlaw lobbyists and people that form groups like CRASH, MADD, MATT, and the others who start gooberment policy makers on these tracks wasting my money!

This is one time every driver out there needs to write DOT during the comments period and voice their ideas. Yes they do listen at times and we being the ones living under these rules they do listen!

Whats so funny they are all over truckers but passenger aircraft pilots don't get the attention we get and we have an "accident" we aren't killing 300+ people! Go figure! Remember two pilots MISSING a whole town and airport recently? It could be called if they were given a ticket, "inattention to driving?" ROFLMAO! What DID they get? Anyone remember?

 

Yaa, They ended up being paid by their casinos for sitting on their tushes getting drunk!!!

Sorry I just had to throw that out there!

 

But why do we the drivers have to give 2 hours of our 14 hours for free to the receiver of the load? We ARE NOT being paid for what we do..that's one of Truckerdave1970's major peeves as well as mine.
If you call a plumber to come to your house to fix a leak and you or someone isn't there to let him in and he waits for 2 hours for you to get there do you think he or his company aren't going to charge you for those 2 hours? It's not his fault fault you left, so he SHOULD be paid. It's one of the major faults of the entire system that we have let get out of our control as Professional Truckers.

 

What you fail to understand is that I work in the oilfield,,,,,to say it's
different would be an understatement.

As an oilfield driver.....it's more load based than mileagebased although
mileage will come into play sometimes.

It normally takes 1 to 2 hours to deliver my load...thus the 2 hours free
before detention starts....all other time before that is compensated by load and load/mileage pay.

I'm not sitting for free at all.....it just seems like it to those that aren't
familiar with oilfield work.

Check the "Oilfield exemption" to hours of service thing.....that's why it
was instituted in the first place.

I may sit on a well all day.....but only get charged on my log for the hour or so I actually work..........I RARELY come close to 70 hours chargeable
in a weeks work period on hours of service.....our resets are 24 hours instead of 34 hours too.

It helps........as far as I'm concerned......the rest of trucking needs to
catch up with the oilfield....not the other way around.