14 th Hour Rule

Just in case anyone is listening...also (in CA) if you hook to a load that was brought from another state for delivery in CA...you are participating in Interstate commerce not intrastate...also disqualifies the local rule here in CA!

 

This is not true. State line nor 100 mile air radius has nothing to do with it. You can use the extension once every seven or eight days (forget which) if you return to the same home terminal every day. The 100 mile air radius thing is if you stay within that you do not need to run a log book. State lines have nothing to do with anything as far as being considered local or not.

 

I guess you didn't read the entire thread..hmm, only one page or 10 posts...and the consensus does come down to individual states and municipalities rules and regulations...the Federal Rules don't always have the final say!

But you did quote my post which does say every night return to base terminal. The log book is also not absolute...also a state ruling, also the company can require a log book for their local drivers, just because the state or federal regs say it isn't required, it can be by the company rules.

Better to know your local/regional rules than to make a blanket assumption of every thing follows Fed guidelines.

 

Just to be nit picky, and someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but, technically, there is no legal requirement for any driver to keep a log. The CARRIER is required to insure a log is maintained for each driver as listed in the regulations.
Naturally, 99.99% of the carriers require the driver to maintain said log.

 

You really need to read the FMCSA rules.

 

And if you get bored or confused with the FMCSA Rules and Regs...switch over to the US Tax Code...stimulating reading!

 

That is just plain mean.

 

I do believe the is a specific section that deals entirely with logging....but why would that be if there were no requirement to use it?

Consider yourself corrected of your wrong statement!

 

I would carry one in the truck for those times when getting to sleep is a problem...except the weight would put me over gross for sure!

 

This is the paragraph I was refering too. ....

§395.8 Driver’s record of duty status.
(a) Except for a private motor carrier of passengers (nonbusiness), every motor carrier shall require every driver used by the motor carrier to record his/her duty status for each 24 hour period using the methods prescribed in either paragraphs (a)(1) or (2) of this section.

The way this paragraph is worded, log books are the responsibility of the carrier, not the driver. Of course in the real world it is the driver that will be held accountable by the law with the carrier shouldering little risk on a by case basis.
Again, I'm fully aware that it's the drivers responsibility to maintain a daily log. I was just pointing out that the rules and regulations can, and are, able to tell you anything you want them too if you torture them enough.