14 th Hour Rule

That is 14 hours ON DUTY, not 14 hours of driving. If you are driving local more than 11 hours you are in violation.

Even with the 16 hour exception a driver cannot exceed the 11 hour driving limit.

Also there must be a 10 hour off duty status between each on duty shift.

So if you finished at midnight you should not be required (not allowed to) go back on duty til 10AM.

Employers seem to have trouble with this and that is the reason for the rules.

 

No need for that when they can be explained to him at a later time.... Sign here please....LOL!

 

plus you can never drive past the 14th hour

 

You can't take "pieces" out of the regs and try to apply those to your specific argument. The rule continues in "(a)(1)":

§395.8 Driver’s record of duty status. (a) Except for a private motor carrier of passengers (nonbusiness), every motor carrier shall require every driver used by the motor carrier to record his/her duty status for each 24 hour period using the methods prescribed in either paragraphs (a)(1) or (2) of this section.
(a)(1) Every driver who operates a commercial motor vehicle shall record his/her duty status, in duplicate, for each 24-hour period. The duty status time shall be recorded on a specified grid, as shown in paragraph (g) of this section. The grid and the requirements of paragraph (d) of this section may be combined with any company forms. The previously approved format of the Daily Log, Form MCS-59 or the Multi-day Log, MCS-139 and 139A, which meets the requirements of this section, may continue to be used.

You stand corrected....AGAIN!

 

Ok, never mind. Apparently I'm not able to convey what I am trying to say in a manner than can be understood. My bad.

 

There are exceptions to both the 11 and 14-Hour Rules. I don't have time or patience to go into them right now. Perhaps reacquainting yourself with FMCSR 395.1 (b) through (q) might be an idea, yeah?

 

Say it again....dont care what this guy says. Just because you cross state lines does not disqualify you from being considered local, nor does the 100 mile air radius. I work for a company that has domiciles in I believe every single state. We all cross state lines and drive further than 100 air miles all the time and use the extension (if needed) once a week.

 

trucker3573, that is how things are done here on the VT/NH borders. Crossing the border has never been a topic in relation to the 16 hr rule.

Can states have custom interpretations of federal HOS laws? I would like to get good solid answers to these kinds of questions here in this forum.

 

Danny,

You are attempting to reference on section of Part 395 of CFR Title 49 Motor Carrier Regulations. With that being said, each part, whether it's Part 391, 392 393 etc all have a "scope" Here is Part 395:

§395.1 Scope of rules in this part.
(a) General. (1) The rules in this part apply to all motor carriers and drivers, except as provided in paragraphs (b) through (q) of this section



So this whole section applies to driver's as well. As for the short haul not needing log books. This has been beat to death as well. Once the "local driver" does not return to his home terminal and released from duty, that "local driver" needs a log book, grid style, or EOBR for the ENTIRE DAY.

 

Obviously you don't have a grasp of the hours of service regulation. Just because you operate within a 100 air mile radius does not give you a blanket answer of not needing a log book. Do you know what is required to get this exemption?