oakley trucking, watch out
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Friend of mine worked there for bout 3 months
Basically said same stuff as Big John
Plenty of freight .... Just a company truck with a payment -
I'm full of #### ???? lmao , Ok, I have 4 other o/o's that will agree with my statement. There are numerous complaints about OAKLEY with OOIDA. They are crooked as they come. BIG JOHN you sound ignorant. MISGUIDED as well. Yes I read the contract , yes they violate the " Truth in Leasing Laws" , Yes Arkansas says EVEN Independent Contractors are included in the State Law regarding Drug tests and physicals.... EDUCATE yourself before you talk smack.... Yes the ATTNY was Oakley's. Not a truckers tale... You lasted 9 months uh ??? Sounds like a great company hahaha
OK Einstein CHECK for yourself..............
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BIG JOHN said this !!
"These company's don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars to attorneys to draw up some lease that is illegal".???? ARE YOU SERIOUS ????? BIG JOHN hahahahahaha you actually think what you said here is true ???
Then please Mr. Know it all explain the many Lawsuits that OOIDA has been involved in regarding " Truth in Leasing Laws" with SEVERAL trucking Companies.... These same Companies I imagine have spent as YOU stated " thousands of dollars to have these contracts written.
OOIDA files class actions against C.R. England and Swift/MS Carriers
http://www.ooida.com/Issues&Actions/Judicial/England/CR England press release 7-8-02.shtml
http://www.ooida.com/Issues&Actions/Judicial/Arctic/050307_court_delivers.shtml
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Courts deliver favorable opinions for OOIDA in three class-action suits
[/FONT]Four-year statute of limitations upheld in OODA vs. Allied Van Lines Inc.
Court grants summary judgment against C.R. England attempts to compel arbitration of owner-operator claims
Court approves settlement distribution in OOIDA vs. Arctic Express
https://www.ccjdigital.com/ooida-class-certification-granted-in-lawsuit-against-bridge-transport/
http://www.ooida.com/MediaCenter/Press_Releases/2008/090408_Landstar.shtml
Just some well known LAWSUITS against known Trucking Companies that I'm sure spent thousands of dollars to Attorneys to have their ILLEGAL contracts drawn up. As BIG JOHN said.
I'm sorry BIG JOHN , you sound naive and gullable... Trying to be sarcastic in your statement while not having a clue about Laws. Do some homework before you get on here and talk down to people. KNOW the facts. I forget , did you see my final payroll settlement??? Did you see the other 4 drivers settlement ?? Did you speak to the Arkansas Dept. of Labor ??
As for me happening to contact the same Lawyer. There is not many Attorney's with knowledge and understanding of the " Federal Truth in Leasing Laws" . I don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to call and find an Attorney that deals with our industry. Now BIG JOHN may be the type to call the first Attorney in the phone book and use him , but not me. Yes,the Attorney I finally spoke to after many different firms was the same as BRUCE OAKLEY'S Attorney. I do not need to prove myself to a know it all truck driver like BIG JOHN lmao... Who by the way worked there for ONLY 9 months.
Yes , Like I have with other Contracts I have read them and understand them. Mercer, unlike OAKLEY abides to the contract and the Federal and State Laws regarding our Contract.
here is another Lawsuit..
Seems that Oakley also violates the "Americans with Disabilities Act " as in this Lawsuit.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/new-york/nysdce/1:2010cv09498/373157/
BIG JOHN , you said it well in this statement ~~~"I don't like to be treated as a company driver with a truck payment."
They act like the truck is theirs. Obviously they are not that great or you would still be working there.
Here is some advice BIG JOHN. Know what you are talking about and have some facts to back your argument.....Before you talk down to someone and their personal experiences..trucker43 Thanks this. -
Let's get one thing straight, I said they were a good company I just didn't agree with the way they dispatched but I understood this going in and read the contract. They got me threw a slow time and when things got better in flat's I went back. Mercer maybe a good company but I am sure I would find something I wouldn't agree with their also.
Know on to your ignorant ###, Yes you are full of #### and so is the other four O/O's if they are following you around.
I am sure OOIDA has some complaints on Bruce Oakley, Inc. I would bet they have a lot of complaints that are made to them about hundreds of trucking company's but if they are Breaking the Truth in Leasing Laws how come OOIDA isn't knocking on their door with bus load of lawyers? Why don't you call Jim Johnston and ask him?
I did and this is how the law reads.
11-3-203. Medical examination as condition of employment.
(a)(1) It is unlawful for any person, partnership, association, or corporation, either for himself or in a representative or fiduciary capacity, to require any employee or applicant for employment, as a condition of employment or continued employment, to submit to or take a physical, medical examination, or drug test unless the examination is provided at no cost to the employee or applicant for employment and unless a true and correct copy, either original or duplicate original, of the examiners report of the examination is furnished free of charge to the applicant or employee upon a written request of the applicant or employee.
(2) It shall further be unlawful for any person, partnership, association or corporation to require any employee or applicant for employment to pay, either directly or indirectly, any part of the cost of the examination, report, or copy of the report.
(3) Notwithstanding subdivision (a)(1) of this section, if an employee tests positive for an illegal drug as defined by rule of the Department of Labor, the employer and employee may agree in writing who will bear the cost of future drug tests or screens required as a condition of continued employment.
(b) Each and every violation of any provision of subsection (a) of this section shall constitute a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine in any amount not exceeding one hundred dollars ($100).
(c) The Director of the Department of Labor shall administer and enforce this section, including without limitation, by:
(1) Adopting administrative rules; and
(2) Demanding payment and seeking recovery in a court of competent jurisdiction for charges, fees, wage deductions, or other payments made by employees as a result of an employers violation of this section.
(d) This section does not change the definition of "medical examination" under any other state or federal statute.
No where does it say owner operators are included. If you can find it please share it with us.
I am sure those companies spent thousands with attorneys, attorneys are not cheap and still decided to cheat the system and lost in court but we are talking about Bruce Oakley, Inc. and I don't see any law suit against them and they have been operating like that for years and until I see a lawsuit filed and they lose in court well your innocent until proven guilty.
INaive and gullable far from it. You need to do some homework before you start running your lipps. I didn't need to see your settlement it doesn't prove anything. Bruce Oakley, Inc. charged you what they said they were going to charge you, it was all on that contract you signed.
Who cares about your BS same lawyer story, I don't. I have never even looked in a phone book for a lawyer, never had a reason to and if I needed one I have other sources for finding n attorney. But didn't you look in the phone book for one?
The time I spent at Bruce Oakley, Inc. or anybody else spent at Bruce Oakley, Inc. have to do with this Einstein?
Didn't know Bruce Oakley, Inc. was found guilty of the Truth in Leasing Laws.
I am going to nickname you "Gomer Pyle" because this is the kind of crap I hear around the trucker section in the truck stop restaurant and their is usually someone that is real loud and talking out his ###. That isn't even the same company. That is Oakley, Inc. not Bruce Oakley, Inc. Their are several company's out their that have the name Oakley, ever here of Oakley sunglasses and they are listed as Oakley, Inc. among others. What an Idiot you are. Talk about not doing your homework.
I didn't like being treated as a company driver with a truck payment but back then flatbed freight was bad and the rates were terrible so I needed to do something else to survive. I had some friends at Bruce Oakley, Inc. so I went their and read the contract before showing up and new all this before I made the trip to North Little Rock. I worked their for nine months and my previous carrier called me because they had got busy and the rate came back up so it was going to be better money and I went back.
You need to practice what you preach Gomer Pyle. Shazamm! -
I won a lawsuit against BO, I am not allowed, due to the agreement, to talk about it but all I can say is,"Get a lawyer and stand in line." What I can say is this. They dispatched me on 250 mile loads, I delivered on time, then they would send me 100 mies for another 250 mi load. At 5 in the afternoon I would be in Little Rock and they would dispatch me on a load that might not load til 8-9 PM to Port Arthur and expect me to run and make it (because they were out of roofing granules in Port Arthur)Tht is another 10 hrs including a quick fuel stop and eat. They would then ##### because you didnt run all night and give you a load of glass to Phonex and expect you to get there in 18 hrs. (Everybody else does it) I got sick of it and refused a load. Start lawsuit here. That bunch makes a lot of money by bidding cheap freight and keeping their share high and you barely make payments.
trucker43 Thanks this. -
Just so you know I went to Watkins-Shepard and stayed and I had 1 problem with the company the whole time there. It had to do with dispatch not loading me in N IL and sending me to IN with 1 sheet of Aluminum. I just called the LO Boss and told him they were wasting time and money and that they could've loaded me. Never happend again.
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I can also add, Bruce Oakleys attorney sent me a letter. It was worded in 8th grade prose and had about 15 words mispelled. I did not think much of him after that first letter.
trucker43 Thanks this. -
I thought you couldn't talk about it? But isn't the reason a company is in business is to make lots of money? You say they bid cheap freight and keep their share high and you barley make payments. Well my contract that I signed said I was going to get the same per mile loaded or empty and I agreed to that, I could care less how far they dead headed me or what they bid the load at I was getting my part. Couldn't make your payments shoot I made mine along with all my other payments. It sounds to me like you had other problems, maybe why you couldn't make your payments because in your own words they had the freight and miles.
When I was their in 2009 to 2010 it was all about running legal. No one ever told me to do something illegal or even asked. I did see a lot of drivers and you find this at any company that can't manage their time. 10-4trucker91 Thanks this. -
Ok, Mr. loud mouth ,wish you knew it all full of hot air truck driver.
Again , feel free to contact the Arkansas Dept. of Labor and check for yourself. You do know how to use a phone ??
I see all you do is make $1.30 a mile and do as your told and you are a happy camper. WOW you can call people names , pretty impressive. I bet your college educated !! DOUBTFULL
OAKLEY rips people off , ask any of their drivers how long they worked there . They have a huge turn over rate, not from being a perfect company as you preach. Again, you no longer work there.
Now Mr. DUMB a@#. I bet you say your a 100% owner operator and Independent Contractor. When you apply for a job it asks for your 10 year job history, you do not put self employed nor INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR. You list the names of the companies in which you sign your lease to. NEWS FLASH. if you are leased to a carrier,hauling under their authority, their trailer, under their dispatch, hauling for them only, you are not a 100% Independent contractor.
Illinois is pursuing and challenging Independent Contractors / employees.
Section 212.1 of the Illinois Unemployment Insurance Act requires that the drivers maintain a separate business identity by displaying their name and address on their equipment or otherwise.
It is necessary under Section 212.1 to give the independent contractor/owner-operator total freedom as to how he/she conducts his/her business separate and apart from the services they provide the Carrier. This means that a non-compete agreement will destroy independent contractor status under Section 212.1.
BIG ARROGANT JOHN, do you understand what a NON COMPETE AGREEMENT IS ???? Do your homework dumb a#$
You speak down to people who have had a bad experience with some companies. Do you have a emotional problem or any insecurities ??
you said ~~~
I am sure OOIDA has some complaints on Bruce Oakley, Inc. I would bet they have a lot of complaints that are made to them about hundreds of trucking company's but if they are Breaking the Truth in Leasing Laws how come OOIDA isn't knocking on their door with bus load of lawyers? Why don't you call Jim Johnston and ask him?~~~~~
I did call, why dont you call Johnston and ask him why they are not filing against your perfect company , you know, the one you only worked for 9 months at..
With all the BS with CSA2010. OOIDA hasn't filed against that yet ???
If a Company or individual is sued often or have complaints often, well Arrogant John what does that tell ya ??? Is it beyond your education ??
11-3-203. Medical examination as condition of employment
NOWHERE does it say Independent contractors are exempt as it does in other sections of the Arkansas Dept. of Labor regulations , as an example~~~~~~~~~
11-4-203 in regards to minimum wage and overtime.
Here you show that you contradict yourself..
First you said this ~~~~~~~~
"These company's don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars to attorneys to draw up some lease that is illegal"
Then you said this ~~~~~~~
"I am sure those companies spent thousands with attorneys, attorneys are not cheap and still decided to cheat the system and lost in court "
SO ??? Which is it ?? Must be beyond that 10nth grade education.
You also said this ~~~
"I didn't need to see your settlement it doesn't prove anything. Bruce Oakley, Inc. charged you what they said they were going to charge you, it was all on that contract you signed."
HOW in your simple little mind can you say a settlement showing factual evidence of over charging someone on something not prove anything ???
Again , must be beyond your level of education.
You said this ~~~~~`
"I don't. I have never even looked in a phone book for a lawyer, never had a reason to and if I needed one I have other sources for finding n attorney. But didn't you look in the phone book for one? "
Other sources?? How , if you live 170 miles from a City would you look for a Lawyer? Internet or phone book... Must be that simple mind we discussed earlier.
you said this ~~~~~
"I am going to nickname you "Gomer Pyle" because this is the kind of crap I hear around the trucker section in the truck stop restaurant and their is usually someone that is real loud and talking out his ###. That isn't even the same company. That is Oakley, Inc. not Bruce Oakley, Inc. Their are several company's out their that have the name Oakley, ever here of Oakley sunglasses and they are listed as Oakley, Inc. among others. What an Idiot you are. Talk about not doing your homework"
You amaze me... Simply amaze me with how such an APOLOGIST you are for Oakley. You call people names lmao. Such a big tough guy. Your a joke.
Get yourself some education, learn to respect yourself some more. Stand up for yourself and don't be so naive...
you also said ~~~
Couldn't make your payments shoot I made mine along with all my other payments. It sounds to me like you had other problems, maybe why you couldn't make your payments because in your own words they had the freight and miles.
Apparently you quit your other job because of rates ?? I think your full of ##$%. You just couldn't handle it uh ?? You sit here bad mouthing people when they have problems, but apparently you did too !!! You call people names , is it from your own personal experience ???? lmao you are a JOKE -
John , you remind me of the truckstop truckers who say they had a bad time with a DOT Officer so you then called U.S. Marshals !! lmao You have something to say about everything , look how many posts you have on here !!! Go get a life...
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