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Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by kakos001, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    I didn't want to C&P your complete post "Trade up" but great writing. You are extremely articulate and make your point(s) extremely well. You would do well making your point with the OTA types because you express yourself so well. I had never gone to the "paying drivers more than your competition" argument I was just looking for increases and the fact that freight never sat still, it always moved.

    Great job, well done!
     
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  3. Trade up

    Trade up Light Load Member

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    Thank you mgfg. It is so very true that Freight never sits still,here's some proof for you.

    The other angle to use in the defence that there is no driver shortage is "freight brokers".
    How could a company that employs no trucks,drivers or anything other than a few people working in an office move freight? In order for them to move freight there has to be an abundance of companies and drivers willing/able to do the work. Companies have enough trucks and drivers that they can move their own freight PLUS the brokers freight.
    In a true driver shortage the companies would NEVER have to haul brokered freight,they have the trucks/drivers and wouldn't need to deal with a broker,shippers would be forced to deal with trucking companies directly.

    There are more than enough trucks/drivers for the brokers to move their freight,otherwise they could not exist.
     
  4. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    I can't entirely agree with your analogy. It's virtually impossible for an irregular route carrier to have enough of their own freight either going to or coming from every destination. I can't think of a carrier of any magnitude that doesn't use/haul brokered freight to some extent. Some carriers have no customer base and survive on brokered freight only. Certainly in a perfect world a carrier should want to haul as much direct freight as possible BUT if you can get paid in 15 days (yes the good brokers do pay in 15 days with NO shorting it) and if cash flow is imperative to your operation, hauling brokered freight or a percentage of brokered freight might appeal more to you.
     
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    Ok.

    If the driver market was as tight as they would have you believe and the supply of trucks was diminished due to the lack of drivers,Then we would see shippers linning up outside of trucking companies waiting to get a meeting and have their freight "accepted" by the carrier,the same way people go looking for a doctor. Doctors don't need to go looking for patients,do they? Patients look for them. The same would happen in trucking if a shortage truly existed.

    Currently,shippers can say "Give it to a broker,we only have to pay them what we used to pay the companies and the rate they negotiate with the company and the differences in the rates will be their profit. Eventually a company will move the freight,there are enough without us having to pay an employee to dicker with every salesman."

    In a true shortage the shipper will say " Go company direct,were paying a middleman to find us a truck and there just aren't any available. Give the rate that we were paying the freight broker directly to the company and see if they will haul our freight. Call the salesman/owner and see if we can arrange a,meeting to get this product moved."

    Freight brokers exist because many companies that ship realised that they no longer needed to run a full size shipping department due to the number of trucking companies available to move their freight. They were able to outsource those jobs to a broker due to the available capacity within the industry.

    Freight brokers know that if comapny A or B won't pull it,that there are enough companies with available capacity that will. Available capacity comes from having enough drivers to do the job.

    In a true driver shortage there would be no middleman,there would be no margins for a middle man. The carrier would have zero need to court a freight broker,they would simply wait for them to go bankrupt then take the freight for themselves. If there was a true driver shortage and a true strain on capacity then shippers wouldn't take the risk of the freight not moving with a broker,they would go carrier direct and negotiate a rate. Even for one skid.

    If you want to open another can of worms,we can talk about driver services as well.
     
  6. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    People Pimps...no I am sure that we both have the same thoughts on this collection.
     
  7. Stefan

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    Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and I'm looking for a job in Canada. I contacted a lot of companies in Canada but no luck so far. As for the money, you must realize that people here in Serbia work for approximately 210 CAD / month (I'm not sure about Greece, but I doubt they are payed more than, say, 400/month). I want to immigrate to Canada as a truck driver and you must understand that a lot of people from here are prepared to work 30 hours/day(per day, yeah :D ), hauling dangerous/radioactive goods, no sleep,... just to get the citizenship and everything. We are used to working hard and support our families with very little money (4-5 members with ~300CAD). Food is very expensive here. I read something about fuel costs in Canada and got very surprised: 1 liter of diesel costs about 1.6CAD in Serbia. We are aware that we get all the worst jobs there are. You must try and understand why people want to immigrate to Canada.
    If anyone knows a company that hires foreign drivers, feel free to post a contact :) Also,if anyone needs a list of numerous emails of different trucking companies in Canada, contact me
     
  8. Denadii Cho

    Denadii Cho Light Load Member

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    Immigrate legally then apply.

    Why are all these foreigner always looking to come in the back door?
     
  9. HeceR

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    You can only immigrate legally by having a job offer. Then you can get a temporary work permit and and after certain time a permanent recident status. Citizenship takes years...

    it's not about trying to find a back door. It's about finding the door...
     
  10. nillz

    nillz Bobtail Member

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    I'll be in canada in two days. let me see if i can find a door. ;)
     
  11. Stefan

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    Good luck with that! I wish I was in Canada :/
     
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